CancerCompass message board discussion started by Mike S. on 3/13/2003 http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,533,0.htm Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:00:00 GMT http://backend.userland.com/rss RSS.NET: http://www.rssdotnet.com/ My husband has stage 4 cancer of the stomach and someone has given us a packet on a product called "Protocel". I am interested if anyone out there has heard of it or better yet, tried it. Please contact me if you know something about this? Thanks, Marci Mike S. Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:00:00 GMT Protocel is awesome stuff, I suggest you do your research, look up all you can about Protocel and survivors of cancer and other immune deficient diseases. Protocel can only do the body good. Get online and search thru Google. There are lots of links - my dad had brain tumor stage 4, he took Protocel, it helped my dad, the tumor was lycing, and and helped prolonged his life by years, but my dad was up in age, and he got to a point that he just gave up. But the Protocel was working, it will kill cancer, it helps the body's natural, built in healing and restorative mechanisms in lycing (breaking down) cancer and other diseased, anaerobic cells. It's real important that you do your research, chemo will hurt a person before helping, I did my research when my dad was sick, and I sure learned a lot. If you need help locating let me know. You won't regret it. Protocel has no side affects like chemo. There are survivors out there, you just need to find them. Sunsetbaby Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:00:00 GMT There are results from an informal study of Protocel and Cantron (very similar) at: http://alternativecancer.us/effectivity.htm That study has case histories of the successes as well as the failures. Snowman Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT Hi I am desperate to find something for my dad. He has stage 4 inoperable stomach cancer. Do you recomend protocel? How does it work, how much is it, where can I get it from and how long does it take before it'could'work. Sorry for all the questions. Rachel. Racheluk Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT I do not recommend Protocel. I do not recommend any specific alternative cancer treatment. Different treatments work on different people. The trick is to find the one that works father. The only aid I know of is the "alternative cancer test kit" which I believe you can find by searching Google using those words. Snowman Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT  On 3/16/2005 Sunsetbaby wrote:Protocel is awesome stuff, I suggest you do your research, look up all you can about Protocel and survivors of cancer and other immune deficient diseases. Protocel can only do the body good. Get online and search thru Google. There are lots of links - my dad had brain tumor stage 4, he took Protocel, it helped my dad, the tumor was lycing, and and helped prolonged his life by years, but my dad was up in age, and he got to a point that he just gave up. But the Protocel was working, it will kill cancer, it helps the body's natural, built in healing and restorative mechanisms in lycing (breaking down) cancer and other diseased, anaerobic cells. It’s real important that you do your research, chemo will hurt a person before helping, I did my research when my dad was sick, and I sure learned a lot. If you need help locating let me know. You won't regret it. Protocel has no side affects like chemo. There are survivors out there, you just need to find them. I have a friend who has a brain tumor. She doesn't have a lot of money. Did you purchase it at a good price? And where did you purchase it from?Thanks Vicki   Sonny20 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:00:00 GMT Renewal & Wellness is a company that sells the product, that is where I bought some back in '02: here is their website: http://www.webnd.com/protocel.php And here is a page with info specifically on the product.  The price is $120, the same as it was when I bought some back then: http://www.webnd.com/catalog.php?cataction=product&categ That amount should last at least a month.  Not dirt cheap, but not to the point where most people are going to be mortgaging their homes to stay alive. Long story short, my mom had severe breast cancer that was treated successfully by regular means, then crossed over into the spinal column where it finished her in a matter of weeks.  I tried to get my mom treated with Protocel, but the effort didn't last long, not least of which because she was already in hospice and I basically had to sneak it into her room four times a day (without the support of our family, which was basically in the "It's all in God's hands" mode).  My mom was only on this for a short period of time (less than a week), so no conclusions can be drawn.  I did learn of some success stories in the course of my research before my mom agreed to start taking it.  Now, my mom was getting outstanding treatment at the Cleveland Clinic and pursued that course of action first, as well she should have.  She only started taking this when the chemo failed.  So it would be hypocritical and irresponsible of me to urge your friend to pursue this instead of other treatments, but if she's at the same bleak place my mom was at where it seems like there's nothing to lose, then by all means she should try this.Thoughts and prayers,Rick  RickyOno Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:00:00 GMT On 3/13/2003 Mike S. wrote:My husband has stage 4 cancer of the stomach and someone has given us a packet on a product called "Protocel". I am interested if anyone out there has heard of it or better yet, tried it. Please contact me if you know something about this? Thanks, Marci I was diagnosed by core needle biopsy with a positive esgtrogen driven breast cancer in January of 2004.  I refused all conventional therapy and used only Protocel to recover.  I had been told without having a mastectomy, and probably a double I was going to die a horrid death.  I had already heard about Protocel and the impressive track record it has of effectiveness for cancer of all types.  Therefore mutilation and poisoning was the last thing I could have consented to.  I had a beautiful recovery with Protocel!  I recommend it to everyone!  In fact -- I wrote a book about my recovery with Protocel. "The Breast Stays Put: No Chemo-No Radiation-No Lumpectomy-No Thank You"  that was just released February of this year.  You can read more about my story on my informative website at www.thebreaststaysput.comwhere I tell more about my story, optimal Protocel usage and I provide prevention and treatment information. To your good health! Pamela Hoeppner, author of "The Breast Stays Put"  (You may contact me through my message center on my website if you have questions.)     TheBreastStaysPut Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:00:00 GMT I have been on Protocel for 2 months in treatment of breast and ovarian cancer.  I had my first set of cancer marker tests last week and they have both come back normal!  I have not had any chemo or rads (although the doctors stated that I needed both).While I cannot say these will be the same results for others, Protocel has been working for me.  I will continue on it for some time more to ensure that I have effectively dealth with any remaining problems in my system.My onc has also requested a PET scan and ultrasound next week to see what has happened with my ovarian tumors.  I am hopeful that based on the normal CA-125, they are either gone or greatly reduced in size. IMThankfull Fri, 09 May 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hi, my son was diagnosed with Thalamic Glioma in December 2008.  He had surgery, radiation and now he is in chemo treatment with Temodar.  As per the doctors people with this type of tumor don't leave more than  5 years because it keeps coming back.  So far it looks like the tumor remaining is stable. Anyone has any advised on Protocel for this type of cancer? Yaredream Wed, 28 May 2008 00:00:00 GMT I have been taking Protocel for 3-4 months now and this was what kicked my cancer into reverse (Hodgkin's Disease - Nodular Sclerosis), along with one 20-day course of Haelan, which I did just prior to using Protocel.  The Haelan I began using in January and the Protocel started in late January/ early February.  In March I was examined with a CAT scan of my chest to view the tumors in the lymph nodes in the chest and they showed the first sign of reduction.I am coming up on another examination soon and expect to have more test results coming.I have to say, Protocel was the FIFTH alternative cancer treatment I tried; the first two were ESSIAC & 714X together, which - for me - kept the disease from progressing and did not show any signs of reversing it during the 9 months (roughly) that I used them.  After that, I tried Modifilan & UF-N (these are both products of brown seaweed, with UF-N being, essentially, a stronger form of Modifilan); this product did not agree with me, and caused mood swings.  Then I discovered Haelan through the Boutenko Family's website and while researching Haelan, found that Protocel works quite similarly to it and decided that, since Haelan is much more expensive, I could run myself through one course of it & then continue my treatment with Protocel.I'm the type of patient that Dr. Andrew Weil describes in his talk on "Spontaneous Healing;" I have taken total control of my healing course with cancer... and I am VICTORIOUS!  ;)  livin&lovin1anohter Fri, 30 May 2008 00:00:00 GMT I am learning so much from this message and having some hope during the storm. Thank you all. God speed all of your recovery. Now I am trying Protocel 50 for my husband. I will keep you all updated. tarachand Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT  On 5/9/2008 IMThankfull wrote:I have been on Protocel for 2 months in treatment of breast and ovarian cancer.  I had my first set of cancer marker tests last week and they have both come back normal!  I have not had any chemo or rads (although the doctors stated that I needed both).While I cannot say these will be the same results for others, Protocel has been working for me.  I will continue on it for some time more to ensure that I have effectively dealth with any remaining problems in my system.My onc has also requested a PET scan and ultrasound next week to see what has happened with my ovarian tumors.  I am hopeful that based on the normal CA-125, they are either gone or greatly reduced in size.I just wanted to provide another update.  My PET scan results came back showing hyperactivity in my breast and ovary (where the tumors were).  When I asked the doctor how he interpreted these results compared with the tumor markers being normal, he said he would disregard the marker tests.  He thought I should have another biopsy for my breast as well as revisit having the hysterectomy.  However, I knew in my heart that the hyperactivity was the Protocel working.Nonetheless, I had an ultrasound he day after the PET scan and those results show that the tumors on my ovaries are gone!  There are no more masses, only a small cyst.  I know the Protocel is working for me. It has dissolved the ovarian tumors, removed 99% of the scar tissue from the site of my lumpectomy, and returned my tumor marker results to a normal, non-canerous range.I am very thankful for this treatment and it continues to amaze me. IMThankfull Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hello,Did you have surgery in pelvis in past for ovarian cancer? Sometimes prevous surgical site may show hyperactivity in PET scan. However it is wise to follow your doctor's recommendation and find out once for all exactly what is the reason. You are in my prayers. tarachand Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hello,Just wondering did you have a cat scan or MRI of pelvis with contrast? This might help. Also you might want to have repeat tumor marker test. Any way I really hope you are right. So that we all will have something positive to look forward. tarachand Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT HI!No, I never had surgery for the ovarian tumors, but I did for the breast tumor (which was discovered first).  Frankly, after just having had the lumpectomy 1 month before, I was not looking forward to another major surgery.And yes, I had the MRI with contrast and a cat scan back in February when the ovarian tumors were first discovered.I would never poo-poo my doctor's advise.  At the same time, I know the journey I am on in going with an alternative treatment is not necessarily something he is familiar with.  I certainly don't think my cancer battles are over.  :-)  But what does seem to be clear is that the Protocel is effectively treating my cancer and elimnating remaining tumors (without the need for chemo or rad).  I intend to continue on the Protocel treatment for the near future while continuing to be monitored by my doctors.Thanks so much for your thoughts!  The Lord has been continuously faithful and it is a blessing to see what He is doing in this situation.God Bless! IMThankfull Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT Hello, again.  I just wanted to mention that I believe Haelan Formula 951 is even better than Protocel, except that each person's biochemistry is unique.  But I am only mentioning it in case the Protocel does not end up working well for you.  Keep Haelan in your "back pocket."I am switching back to Haelan now... it may be premature because I have not had another x-ray to compare with the one I had in Feb./Mar., but I am getting the feeling that I need to power up with Haelan again.  The problem with that is that Haelan costs $51/day!  So, I'm starting a Fund Raising Campaign to raise $5,000 to cover 3 months of Haelan.If you reach the same juncture, drop me a message and I'll help in any way I can to get you started in fund raising. livin&lovin1anohter Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:00:00 GMT There are some important facts you should know about remission.  Most doctors will not tell you this because, if the case described below applies, it means that they have nothing to offer and the fear that will mean that they will lose a patient.  Most tumors contain a small percentage,  approximately 2%, of MDR (multiple drug-resistant) cells. Chemo is not effective against these cells. After the first round of chemo, if the chemo is effective, all of the cells that are not MDR, are destroyed. Since this accounts for the vast majority of the tumor mass, the tumor appears to be effectively destroyed. However, the MDR cells remain and start to multiply. If the cancer reoccurs due to MDR cells, the new tumor is likely to be entirely MDR. The next time chemo is used, none of the cells will be destroyed because they are all MDR. This is why giving chemo after a cancer reoccurs often fails to have any effect. Only alternative health care has treatments that have been shown to be effective against MDR cells. These include Paw Paw* and Graviola. Ellagic acid is being used as a general cancer preventative and the Ellagic Insurance Formula* from Greenwood Health contains Graviola.  This was taken from http://alternativecancer.us/  Snowman Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:00:00 GMT for the person dealing with thalamic glioma from what i have read protocel could only help you cancer is an abnormal cell protocel is known for killing abnormal cells i would do more research on protocel and also oreganol oil this is also known to be very sucessful in defeating cancer take care god bless bro.life Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:00:00 GMT I am working on keeping my infiltrating ductal carcinoma of the breast away, when having my mastectomy, seven out of 22 lymph nodes removed were cancerous.  I underwent the most aggressive chemo possible, 3 week dose every 2 weeks but declined the radiation.  Honestly, my body was exhausted, the surgery (1/22/07), chemo (Feb. – May 2007), and reconstruction (July 07) was enough.  I had the test done to see how I metabolize tamoxifen and found that I over-metabolize the drug, not good.  I could go on with details but what is important about my particular situation is that I drastically changed my diet, no more wheat, soy, corn and most dairy products for me.  I have been going by the Blood Type Diet since November of 2007 and started taking Protocel 23 Formula on January 31, 2008, and I have had the energy to jog 30 minutes almost every morning on a treadmill since March of 2008.  My cancer was diagnosed 12/22/06 so I am coming up on my two year anniversary.  That doesn’t sound like much to most people but the two people I knew who were fighting the same type of cancer as me are no longer with us.  I take it day to day and absolutely thank my maker for each day.  I write this only to encourage anyone to read what you can handle about your situation and look at all options available.  The only side effect I have had from either my diet or the Protocel is that one of my toenails use to have a fungus, ugly thick toenail and since August of this year, 2008 my toenail has been growing out normal and looks beautiful!  I love the saying, yesterday is History and tomorrow is a mystery but today is a present. Susan-K Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:00:00 GMT