ip-6 reviews

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RE: ip-6 reviews

by shellie12 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 08:43 AM

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hiya thanks hope all goes well let me know.. hi have you used both  the ip6   andd the ip6 gold   i have got the 1st one  as its seems a bit cheaper but find it very hard to mix in water a lot of it lays at the bottom of glass 

RE: ip-6 reviews

by VisualDeadlock on Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:07 PM

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Hi - hoping to get feedback and thoughts from some of you.

Quick stats: I am 42 years old, went in for an MRI for something else, MRI noticed "hypointense" signals at the periphery of my prostate.  Did a PSA test, came back at 0.33, DRE said prostate was normal.  Did a multi-parametric MRI, gave me a score of PI-RADS 2 and prostate was not enlarged (20.3cc).  Did a transrectal ulatrasound guided biopsy, and this is where things started to not look that good.  It came back as no cancer was found, but some areas of atypical small acinar proliferations were found.  Did research on this ASAP and found out it was a high cancer predictor, and that basically I had upto to 75% chance (based on sampling error and biopsy core count of 20) that I would discover PCa in a repeat biopsy within 3-6 months.

I will see my Uro on Tuesday, and I know he will say to wait for 3 months or so and then we can re-test somethings, and I agree with that sentiment - I mean, techinically, I do not have cancer right now, and people have said to make sure I do not rush into a treatment.  I figure for the moment, I have time.

Addtionally, I figure that I can look into natural remedies in the meantime, and maybe that will effect positively on the tests I will do in a few months time.

I came across this post about ip6 a few days ago, and started doing some research, and not only did this seem promising but other holistic treatments came up.  Now apart from being terrified and depressed, I am also crasy confused.  At my age, I really want to avoid radiation and/or prostate removal because from what I understand, quality of life really decreases in terms of urinary continence and erectile function.

So perhaps some of you can provide thoughts on the following:

1) Is it really worth seeking natural treatments right now?  I mean if I can find something low risk in the 3 months waiting time, why not right?

2) They seem to be so many natural cures to cancer.  I've historically been extremely skeptical of "natural" remedies, and I now I feel like I am awash in a sea of snake oil and snake oil salesmen

3) I have in fact ordered IP6 gold (powder) and have two concerns:

a) Dosage.  Caribear says he was doing 12 scoops a day, which seems like a lot.  If I remember correctly, thats about 37 grams.  Based on what I read, for therapeutic dosages, we are looking at one scoop twice a day.  I was personally thinking of going 2 scoops twice a day.  Enough? Too little? Pipe dream?

b) Iron chelation - I found some users of IP 6 gold state that they became a bit anemic due to the ip6. Maybe it was dosage?  Since this does chelate iron, it worries me, but apparently it shouldnt be an issue as the iron in the blood is tightly bound to haemoglobin.  Maybe the user didn't take it on an empty stomach and took with food in which case, it chelated to the iron in the food and hence anemic reaction.  But this does have me concerned

4) Was looking at curcumin and beta glucan.  Curcumin seemd like a strong recommendation but the high absoprtion ones use biopherine as a carrier mechanism, and 3 users in the same post said that it basically had an immediate effect of reducing their libido.  Any one take these and have had similar experiences?

5) Seems like a lot of folks aren't taking one single thing, but a cocktail, ip6, curcumin, beta glucan, alkhaline water, etc etc...I am trying to figure out a cocktail for myself too, i dunno...I mean should I?

Also just wanted to mention, in relation to #5 above in terms of cocktail/dietary changes, I have actually already been vegetarian most of my life since I was  years old.  Guess that didn't help? But I have been having dairy, which I am now reducing since I found out recently I am allergic to cows milk and yeast.  Also, I do not drink, but I do smoke (sigh - I think this one I really do have to stop).

Anyways, thanks for reading and replying,  Best wishes to all afflicted by this terrible disease and to their caregivers. A speedy and complete recovery to you!

RE: ip-6 reviews

by shellie12 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:46 PM

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On Apr 01, 2018 12:07 PM VisualDeadlock wrote:

Hi - hoping to get feedback and thoughts from some of you.

Quick stats: I am 42 years old, went in for an MRI for something else, MRI noticed "hypointense" signals at the periphery of my prostate.  Did a PSA test, came back at 0.33, DRE said prostate was normal.  Did a multi-parametric MRI, gave me a score of PI-RADS 2 and prostate was not enlarged (20.3cc).  Did a transrectal ulatrasound guided biopsy, and this is where things started to not look that good.  It came back as no cancer was found, but some areas of atypical small acinar proliferations were found.  Did research on this ASAP and found out it was a high cancer predictor, and that basically I had upto to 75% chance (based on sampling error and biopsy core count of 20) that I would discover PCa in a repeat biopsy within 3-6 months.

I will see my Uro on Tuesday, and I know he will say to wait for 3 months or so and then we can re-test somethings, and I agree with that sentiment - I mean, techinically, I do not have cancer right now, and people have said to make sure I do not rush into a treatment.  I figure for the moment, I have time.

Addtionally, I figure that I can look into natural remedies in the meantime, and maybe that will effect positively on the tests I will do in a few months time.

I came across this post about ip6 a few days ago, and started doing some research, and not only did this seem promising but other holistic treatments came up.  Now apart from being terrified and depressed, I am also crasy confused.  At my age, I really want to avoid radiation and/or prostate removal because from what I understand, quality of life really decreases in terms of urinary continence and erectile function.

So perhaps some of you can provide thoughts on the following:

1) Is it really worth seeking natural treatments right now?  I mean if I can find something low risk in the 3 months waiting time, why not right?

2) They seem to be so many natural cures to cancer.  I've historically been extremely skeptical of "natural" remedies, and I now I feel like I am awash in a sea of snake oil and snake oil salesmen

3) I have in fact ordered IP6 gold (powder) and have two concerns:

a) Dosage.  Caribear says he was doing 12 scoops a day, which seems like a lot.  If I remember correctly, thats about 37 grams.  Based on what I read, for therapeutic dosages, we are looking at one scoop twice a day.  I was personally thinking of going 2 scoops twice a day.  Enough? Too little? Pipe dream?

b) Iron chelation - I found some users of IP 6 gold state that they became a bit anemic due to the ip6. Maybe it was dosage?  Since this does chelate iron, it worries me, but apparently it shouldnt be an issue as the iron in the blood is tightly bound to haemoglobin.  Maybe the user didn't take it on an empty stomach and took with food in which case, it chelated to the iron in the food and hence anemic reaction.  But this does have me concerned

4) Was looking at curcumin and beta glucan.  Curcumin seemd like a strong recommendation but the high absoprtion ones use biopherine as a carrier mechanism, and 3 users in the same post said that it basically had an immediate effect of reducing their libido.  Any one take these and have had similar experiences?

5) Seems like a lot of folks aren't taking one single thing, but a cocktail, ip6, curcumin, beta glucan, alkhaline water, etc etc...I am trying to figure out a cocktail for myself too, i dunno...I mean should I?

Also just wanted to mention, in relation to #5 above in terms of cocktail/dietary changes, I have actually already been vegetarian most of my life since I was  years old.  Guess that didn't help? But I have been having dairy, which I am now reducing since I found out recently I am allergic to cows milk and yeast.  Also, I do not drink, but I do smoke (sigh - I think this one I really do have to stop).

Anyways, thanks for reading and replying,  Best wishes to all afflicted by this terrible disease and to their caregivers. A speedy and complete recovery to you!

hiya  well i can tell you is 12 scoops wood be far to much as you dont have cancer  so a good dose for you wood be 2 maybe up to 4  twice a day on a emply stomach  morning and night. for good health and prevention i have my uncle on it this month after a lot of googling and reading reviews.. ur psa is very good  and am sure you want to keep it that way , i give him 10 capsuls twice a day  and will know better friday as he has a psa and bloods to get none wednesday as a month 5 weeks ago his psa was raising  his is at 25 up from 5  then 8    so the uro nurse wants to get him started on a new med with the zoladex that he is curranty on . so maybe friday will tell a tale ..

RE: ip-6 reviews

by VisualDeadlock on Sun Apr 01, 2018 02:24 PM

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Ok thanks for your reply.

Heard about beta-glucan? I'm currently investigating this myself.

Do keep us informed on the progress of your uncle and treatments.  Many may not post, but I guarentee a lot of folks read these posts and have similar interests/concerns or questions.  I know I do.

RE: ip-6 reviews

by OMB02 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 02:28 PM

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On Apr 01, 2018 8:43 AM shellie12 wrote:

hiya thanks hope all goes well let me know.. hi have you used both  the ip6   andd the ip6 gold   i have got the 1st one  as its seems a bit cheaper but find it very hard to mix in water a lot of it lays at the bottom of glass 

Hello Shellie,

Yes, I have used both but am now only using the cell forte ip6. It (the six scoops) is hard to mix but I give it a good forceful stirring and drink it quickly before it has a chance to settle back to the bottom of my glass. I'll be sure to post the general results of my scans and test at the end of this month.

Take Care, Monty

RE: ip-6 review

by shellie12 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 02:41 PM

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naw i havent.will goggle it to   i have googed a lot of stuffs but some have side effects i have him on b12/vitc and d    big doses    i don tknow who see,s it but if they do i wise they wood comment as the more we can read of true life experances the better 

RE: ip-6 reviews

by shellie12 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 02:43 PM

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thanks hope its goes the right way..  i have stirred it and shook it  lol  its ends up at bottom  and can take  it out on a spoon 

RE: ip-6 reviews

by tomatoman on Sun Apr 01, 2018 04:06 PM

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VisualDeadlock wrote:

"1) Is it really worth seeking natural treatments right now?  I mean if I can find something low risk in the 3 months waiting time, why not right?"

If  you are concerned about being in a precancerous condition and the signs suggest that cancer is around the corner for you, then you would benefit from a lot of different dietary changes that probably would give you some resistance to development of cancer, and at the same time not cause any ill effects. In general, increase antioxidants, increase vitamin D3, and decrease animal fat.

I am 72, with stage 4 now for over six years.  I spent a lot of my time in the past few years studying various foods and their impact on my metastisized cancer, which seems to be in my back lymphatic system and spinal column recently. I am lately treating with an improvised heat therapy with seemingly good success.  But you are precancerous so that takes me back awhile in my thinking; I have to think about what I would have done differently ten or more years ago

I graduallly changed my diet over the years to include, most importantly, a lot of lycopenes, mostly from tomatoes.  I tried ip6 briefly but just a couple of capsules a day greatly increased intestinal bleeding after two days, so I stopped taking it right away.  

Nevertheless, there are as you say many natural cures and I consider myself a guinea pig of sorts who has tried many of them.  There are reports that say that many things kill prostate cancer cells in the lab or in animals, yet their effect on humans is somewhat untested and unknown.  My own experience points to tomatoes as the only thing that gives me actual clear-cut evidence of benefit.  In my case that means that I control the pain and thus, by logic, the growth of tumors, with tomato soup, pasta sauce, catsup, and other tomato rich foods.  

There are other foods like hot peppers, (capsaecin), black pepper, (piperin) and garlic and tumeric and paprika, which have positive studies online,  but from my own experience, I cannot tell if they actually do anything by pain relief, PSA drop, or other means.  They are like a blind guess.  Ip6 is like that too for me.  

My advice would be to increase vitamin D3 and E, and to decrease meat intake but increase vegetable protein intake, as well as increased lycopene intake from tomato products.

RE: ip-6 reviews

by CalBear1974 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 07:12 PM

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Shellie And Other Folks Stirring IP6 Powder:

I have found a mug with a screw on top that has a snap-up drink opening works fine. I can shake it VIGOROUSLY for at least 30 seconds and get 95% of the powder stirred into the water. HOWEVER, you don't need to buy any fancy mug. Take a jar that once had peanut butter, or gravy, etc., in it. Clean it up as long as you still have the screw-on top. Mix up you powder in water that fills about 80% of the jar. You will be able to vigorously stir the powder and water together without spilling a drop. I can't imagine eating IP6 out of a spoon. Pretty gritty.

Your happy vegan CalBear74

RE: ip-6 reviews

by CalBear1974 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 07:24 PM

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VisualDeadlock,

I have been taking Transfer Point's beta glucan for more than a year. The choice of Beta 1, 3-D Glucan (#300) was the result of reading Dr. Vaclav Vetvicka's text "Beta Glucan: Nature's Secret". He reviews studies of the efficacy of competing beta glucan supplements. He does not endorse any supplement specifically, but he lets the findings speak for themselves. Your investigation might also include, if you haven't already done it, viewing the interviews of Dr. Vetvicka and other physicians, pharmacologists, etc., at vitawithimmunity.com .

Good luck,

Your happy vegan, CalBear74

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