ip-6 reviews

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RE: ip-6 reviews

by CalBear1974 on Sun Apr 01, 2018 08:11 PM

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VisualDeadlock,

My  impression is like others: don't conclude that you need a dose equivalent to mine. You would benefit from reading Dr. Shamsuddin's 2014 text "IP6 & Inositol". Cell normalization can be achieved with a low-moderate dose. Start with 2 scoops of powder in the AM, and 2 in the pm. On an empty stomach of course mixed in water. My niece used IP6 successfully at a low dose to get rid of breast cysts. She also told me after the fact she went to her ENT and learned that a small, probably benign, tumor he had been monitoring in her throat had disappeared. He requested that she explain everything she had been doing since their last visit. She called me soon after and asked if the disappearance could be attributed to the IP6. I emphasized cell normalization may occur wherever your immune system encounters/identifies "not-self" cells. Heavy doses can of course trigger apoptosis. 

https://www.amazon.com/IP6-Inositol-Medicine-Millennium-Molecules/dp/984332708X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522611487&sr=8-1&keywords=shamsuddin+ip6

Your happy vegan CalBear74

RE: ip-6 reviews

by genemyers on Mon Apr 02, 2018 05:02 AM

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I would definitely look at natural remedies and implement what you think are appropriate. You would need to put your own program together. Favorites of mine are curcumin and lycopene. I take curcumin with no problem. If it causes problems for you, you can just stop taking it.

With a psa of .33, negative DRE, mpMRI showing Pirads of 2, one negative blind biopsy, you likely do not have, and will not develop any significant cancer. If you do develop cancer, it will likely be Gleason 6 (based on the pirads score) and can be treated with active surveillance not surgery or radiation.

In one study of 21,000 patients, the 5 year probability of a prostate cancer diagnosis with a psa below 1.5 is .51%.  I would not do another biopsy but watch the psa level to see if it rises or stays about the same. If it rises above 1.5, then consider a biopsy. (The normal cut off for getting a biopsy was 4.0, but age adjusted the cutoff for a 40 year old is 2.5).

“from what I understand, quality of life really decreases in terms of urinary continence and erectile function”.

Make sure your understanding is based on a population of 42 year olds. I would say that if it is from 60-80 year olds (the population that normally gets prostate cancer), then that information is invalid for you.

I was 45 year old when I has surgery for prostate cancer. I have some minor urine leakage, and some ED, but it is easily overcome. I do not consider it a big quality of life issue.

Best wishes,

Gene

RE: ip-6 reviews

by genemyers on Mon Apr 02, 2018 05:49 AM

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I forgot to mention, the studies that show a risk of prostate cancer for patients with ASAP were with patients that had an elevated psa, in the neighborhood of a psa of 12. I am not sure that these studies applies in your situation but it would probably be good that you watch your psa closely and discuss with your doctor when to do another biopsy (so I take back my comment on waiting until the psa gets to 1.5). In any case, after an ASAP indication, those patients that did later have cancer almost all of them were Gleason 6

RE: ip-6 reviews

by VisualDeadlock on Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:20 AM

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Excellent.  Thank you for your reply everyone and genemyers.  I agree, most of my stats do look good except for the ASAP found in my biopsy.  So while that 0.51% is encouraging, the detection of ASAP has me seriously worried.  Your comment about the PSA score really hits home, it was a small discussion I had with my Uro - in fact he said for my age, he would be concerned if it was above 1.5.

Follow up question if I may: The had already ordered the curcumin, BCM 95 with Bio Perine.  Is that similar to the curcumin you use? I read it may be the bio perine that caused the ED issue.  Addtionally, I read on Web MD that curcumin should not be taken if you have gallstones, which I have.  So, guess I'm still a little wary of it.

I will look into lycopene, I've read it mentioned a few times, as well as beta glucan, revesatrol and selenium.

Thanks much,

Cheers.

RE: ip-6 reviews

by tomatoman on Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:25 PM

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https://juicingtherainbow.com/1280/nutrients/lycopene/

I meant to post this article, although pectin article is  good also.(prior post).

RE: ip-6 reviews

by CalBear1974 on Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:07 AM

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VisualDeadlock,

My  turmeric/curcumin supplements, two of them, come from different companies. One adds Bioperine and Triphala, the other Meriva (Lecithinized for enhanced absorption). The former has a brand "Doctor Recommended" which I purchase in 3-packs from Amazon. The latter is from "Healthy Origins" and is called Curcumin - Phytosome. I take these 2 supplements together 3 times a day, approximately 3,000 mg. at each dosing session for a total of 9 grams approximately. I get my Healthy Origins from Vitacost.

If you are unfamiliar with Triphala it is popular in Ayurvedic medicine (India) and, as the name implies, it is a blend of 3 Indian herbs, including Amla. 

Your happy vegan, CalBear74

RE: ip-6 reviews

by shellie12 on Wed Apr 04, 2018 08:40 AM

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lol hiya yes it is really bad  its usually just abut 1/2 tea spoonful .i give him 11  so if its not took hes still getting 10 so at moment am usung a wee tub with lid  am gonna stop the ip6 and go for the ip6 gold as it easier to mix  and have ordered some from the usa as i can get 240 caps for the price of 120  here 

Hes on them near a month now and am not sure i see any difference but he does has anixery and slight depression as well  so times am not sure . hes scared of walking incase he falls. and i have waking aids. worryies about eveything and anything ..has slight ocpd.  so its all hard work .

RE: ip-6 reviews

by OMB02 on Fri Apr 06, 2018 09:05 PM

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Hello CalBear,

Can you share a bit about the beta glucan you take? Would it be Glucan Elite by Pro Formulations or do you take another product?

Take Care,

Monty

RE: ip-6 reviews

by CalBear1974 on Sat Apr 07, 2018 01:23 AM

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Monty,

I have read Vaclav Vetvicka's text "Beta Glucan: Nature's Secret". He reports data from studies that found Transfer Point's Beta 1, 3-D Glucan (#300) to be the best performing beta glucan. I also found the original journal article he wrote on a study done in the Czech Republic (he is originally from the Czech Republic before moving to the U.S.; he is a Ph.D. biochemist at the University of Louisville Medical School in the Pathology Dept.) The article reports an experiment done on men suffering benign prostatic hypertrophy (enlarged prostate) who received Transfer Point's beta glucan. I then decided if he personally chooses Transfer Point products, I will use it for my own treatment. Beta glucan he believes should be combined with resveratrol and vitamin C when you take it. I found Nature's Answer brand resveratrol has vitamin C in it. I take two of these capsules and 3 beta glucan very early in the AM and go back to bed. I have also used it successfully with my treatment of our sheltie who had aggressive colo-rectal cancer diagnosed in January. Combined with an IP-6 regimen, she seems to be cancer free. Our vet is taken aback by our success. I just ordered my supply of beta glucan from jet.com . It is pricier than others but it has clinical data supporting its performance claims.

Monty I must admit I have been thinking about your creeping PSA numbers and wondering if that is a consequence of your androgen-independent cancer cells proliferating. They are more challenging to kill. Have you investigaged European milk thistile with isosylibin B in the formulation. This latter chemical agent has been shown to be a killer of androgen-independent cells as well as dependent cells.

Hope this helps,

Your happy vegan, CalBear74

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