High Calcium

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High Calcium

by Lebo29virgo on Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:44 PM

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Any information on high calcium, my dad levels are high scan results show no spread to the bone. Also he is in hospital for tests right now, but the bay he is on has infection, we visitor's must follow procedures for infection prevention etc but I'm afraid risks to dad with an already beaten immune system lowest white count (actually need to have break from treatment) as this is not oncology ward or no oncologist actually within. General practitioner is charge of ward

Any and all advice appreciated 

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by JohnnyO on Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:45 PM

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Not a lot to go on here, but I'm assuming headn/neck treatment here.  Have they scanned the parathyroid glands, and if not, they should.

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by Sdurnell on Wed Jan 30, 2019 07:17 AM

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I have not heard of calcium being a problem with squamous cell carcinoma, which is the main head and neck cancer we deal with here.  Also, ours usually does not metastasize to the bone.

Does he have the same cancer?

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by calspatsula on Fri Feb 01, 2019 01:04 AM

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Before my tonsil cancer stage 3 squamous cell HPV, I had high Calcium for a long time. Due to high dose Vitamin D from my Doctor I had high calcium levels...Nephrologist discontimued Vitamin D stat! Caused decreased kidney function and permanent damage to 1 kidney...Sooooo high Calcium can be affected by a lot of things, some serious.

btw: 2 years cancer free 65 years old and now 60 minute exercise class 4 times a week. Had 2 rounds of chemo and 35 days radiation. It took about 1 year and 8 months to get this far and never thought I would get so much healing back...at least at the beginning!!!I just followed good medical direction thru my Doctors.

PS: There are some excellent people on here that have first hand experience.

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by Lebo29virgo on Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:12 AM

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On Jan 29, 2019 12:44 PM Lebo29virgo wrote:

Any information on high calcium, my dad levels are high scan results show no spread to the bone. Also he is in hospital for tests right now, but the bay he is on has infection, we visitor's must follow procedures for infection prevention etc but I'm afraid risks to dad with an already beaten immune system lowest white count (actually need to have break from treatment) as this is not oncology ward or no oncologist actually within. General practitioner is charge of ward

Any and all advice appreciated 

Hi guys I am so sorry for delay in replying, My dad has been admitted to hospital after he noticed his urine was pink? He had bloods taken and results shown calcium to high, and other levels were "all over the place" Doctor words. 

After few days & few bags iv flushing. Discharged, fortunately we had appointment with his consultant. THIS WAS 2 WEEKS AGO NOW. Has spent 1of the last week in another hospital, as I wasn't happy with treatment and care. 
His chemo treatment has been postponed due to low white blood cells, immune system basically shot. 
   He has been assigned to a different treatment, immune therapy "Nivolumab"  MY DAD QUESTIONED, HOW THIS WORKS WITH HIS OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM IF HIS IMMUNE SYSTEM IS TOO LOW. 
 HIS CHEMO TREATMENT HAS BEEN STOPPED SINCE DECEMBER 2018. 8+WEEKS NOW HE IS SUFFERING FROM DRY MOUTH AND REALLY THICK SALIVA THE DOCTOR INSIST ON CALLING SECRETIONS, THIS IS WHY HE IS UNABLE TO EAT SOLID MEALS AND SINCE HE WAS DISCHARGED FROM 1ST HOSPITAL STAY HE NOW IS UNABLE TO DRINK HIS ENSURE MILK DRINKS WHICH FOR THE PAST 12MONTHS, FEBRUARY 2018. ENSURE MILK&PPWDERS HAVE BEEN HIS ONLY NUTRITION. END OF JANUARY 2019, HE'D actually managed few mouths of porridge oats, and mashed potatoe&gravy. But he received a medicine at 1st hospital and he unable to swallow properly without the secretions clinging on his drinks making him gag and cough up thick saliva, he been prescribed omeprazole for indigestion. The side effects are horrific. Especially concerning bloods reading as a miss white blood count may be tested as a miss? Dry mouth, weight loss MY DAD WEIGHS 57kg????  Warning that may effect your platelets. I have expressed my concern. Direct to patients relations at the Cancer hospital he is under. Well actually right this second he is admitted to the Clatterbridge cancer care hospital. Where he (will) receives his treatment. 
3. 21 calcium level that's result from 21-feb 2019. 
He has no feed tube yet. 
Thanks guys for the time and your input and support 

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by Lebo29virgo on Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:29 AM

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On Feb 01, 2019 1:04 AM calspatsula wrote:

Before my tonsil cancer stage 3 squamous cell HPV, I had high Calcium for a long time. Due to high dose Vitamin D from my Doctor I had high calcium levels...Nephrologist discontimued Vitamin D stat! Caused decreased kidney function and permanent damage to 1 kidney...Sooooo high Calcium can be affected by a lot of things, some serious.

btw: 2 years cancer free 65 years old and now 60 minute exercise class 4 times a week. Had 2 rounds of chemo and 35 days radiation. It took about 1 year and 8 months to get this far and never thought I would get so much healing back...at least at the beginning!!!I just followed good medical direction thru my Doctors.

PS: There are some excellent people on here that have first hand experience.

Thanks for your reply. This is what my dad is being told 1minute it's oh the ensure milks +full fat milk your drinking is the cause. Then he told no its nothing to do with milk... I'm convinced that omeprazole has part in Play with these results. Trying to get my dad to understand am not stating the omeprazole is the cause. But maybe it is causing chemical imbalance and readings are possible to get miss readings <those words quoted from the information leaflet in omeprazole.

Also his blood thinning meds are stopped to see if that's what effecting his platelet count. I keep shouting omeprazole omeprazole check the fking omeprazole... Sorry for the curse word... Oh and the next medical pro that says you really shouldn't rely on the Internet for info. Why not that's we're I found the guidelines from NICE policies procedure etc for the professional medical service provider and practicing use of medicine... Basically Doc I'm reading what YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO. 

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by jeff3 on Fri Feb 22, 2019 05:37 PM

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Lebo29, your dad may have an iodine deficiency causing dry mouth.  Please check this link. Youtube is a good resource too. Iodine absorption is enhanced with selenium. To get calcium to the bones will require boron, magnesium, vitamin C and vitamin K2 MK4.  You'll need 45 mg of K2 MK4 to activate the GLA Matrix Protein. These other links will help familarize you with each I've mentioned.

https://apple-wellness.com/could-you-be-iodine-deficient/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-k2#sources

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Selenium-HealthProfessiona

http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4833003/

Since most of our immune system is in the gut, look into foods and probiotics needed to restore the gut after chemo and antibiotics. 

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by Sdurnell on Sun Feb 24, 2019 06:52 PM

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What strength omeprazole is he on?  I had problems with the 40 mg pills--heart problems that turned out to be "not a problem," as well as low magnesium levels.  I was also on ranitidine for reflux, which has fewer side effects.  When I switched to the 20 mg omeprazole, all my side effects went away.

AND, I discovered this all myself, on the dreaded internet, after a fair amount of medical intervention (and all practitioners had all my med info at their fingertips the whole time). When I reduced to 20 mg all was well.

Doctors don't really know much about the effects of or interactionsbetween medications, so you mighy also want to consult a pharmacist about the omeprazole.  I think that if you are careful to use only reputable sites (research hospital, university, etc.) that searching the internet is fine.  That's how I fixed this particular problem, and you may find something too.

All the best to you and your dad.

Susan

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by Lebo29virgo on Mon Feb 25, 2019 07:51 PM

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On Feb 22, 2019 5:37 PM jeff3 wrote:

Lebo29, your dad may have an iodine deficiency causing dry mouth.  Please check this link. Youtube is a good resource too. Iodine absorption is enhanced with selenium. To get calcium to the bones will require boron, magnesium, vitamin C and vitamin K2 MK4.  You'll need 45 mg of K2 MK4 to activate the GLA Matrix Protein. These other links will help familarize you with each I've mentioned.

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http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html

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Since most of our immune system is in the gut, look into foods and probiotics needed to restore the gut after chemo and antibiotics. 

?? thanks  for the info x

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