All sugars equal?

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All sugars equal?

by jtango on Tue Jun 04, 2019 02:44 PM

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I think we all know that cancer feeds first on sugar, but does that included d-ribose?  I bought some for my husband to take before he exercises in the mornings...he's trying to build muscle tissue that he lost after a knee replacement surgery.  He had oral squamous cell going on seven years ago and we're still eating a healthy diet, juicing, he's on the Budwig smoothie daily, etc but I'm not sure about giving him the d-ribose and would appreciate any good info that you may have...thanks!

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by ToddlerFather on Thu Jun 06, 2019 08:18 PM

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Actually, there are cancers that feed so low on sugar that you can almost starve to death without harming them. So this is not only sugar-dependent, but condition-dependent. 

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by jtango on Thu Jun 06, 2019 09:46 PM

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On Jun 06, 2019 8:18 PM ToddlerFather wrote:

Actually, there are cancers that feed so low on sugar that you can almost starve to death without harming them. So this is not only sugar-dependent, but condition-dependent. 

Wow.  Didn't know that.  Are those cancers not detectable by PET scan?

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by ToddlerFather on Fri Jun 07, 2019 01:44 AM

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On Jun 06, 2019 9:46 PM jtango wrote:

On Jun 06, 2019 8:18 PM ToddlerFather wrote:

Actually, there are cancers that feed so low on sugar that you can almost starve to death without harming them. So this is not only sugar-dependent, but condition-dependent. 

Wow.  Didn't know that.  Are those cancers not detectable by PET scan?

Only if stimulated. For instance, my thyrodean tumor cells requires rTSH stimulus or otherwise they don't show up, even in PET scans. And even with rTSH, it took years for them to grow enough to be discernible. 

And for what I read in boards such as this, prostate tumors are also very low sugar consuming, but for thyroid that is first hand knowledge to me. 

Also of notice is that PET scans usually get false positives from scars and infections, so even some more consuming tumors might be hard to identify with a low resolution imaging such as what PET scans provide.

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by jtango on Sat Jun 08, 2019 03:25 PM

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I wonder if the assumption can be safely made that those few cancers which are not high consumers of sugar are slower growing? 

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by butterfly501 on Sat Jun 08, 2019 07:08 PM

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I'm not sure in which language "thyrodean" is a word but it is rhTSH; Recombinant human TSH.

FDG-PET is the professionally recommended imaging in the face of rising TG and negative radioiodine whole body scans.

FDG is ultimately sugar. 

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by ToddlerFather on Mon Jun 10, 2019 06:44 AM

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On Jun 08, 2019 3:25 PM jtango wrote:

I wonder if the assumption can be safely made that those few cancers which are not high consumers of sugar are slower growing? 

That's the general trend, yes. For all the good and bad of it.

And if we assume a correlation between mortality and growth rate, previously known survival rates are similar (top-3 and equal or more of 95% were prostate with 98,6%, thyroid with 98,2%, testicular at 95,1%).

But besides issues with not reflecting current advancements in cancer care, those statistics hide in them the fact that those not responding to conventional care in those cancers won't have as many resources dedicated to research why, since we as a society are more likely to invest in fighthing conditions that cause more deaths. 

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