prostasol

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prostasol

by inedal on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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my psa was 148 and after just 10 days of donsbach's prostasol, the psa went down to 48.
my testosterone level also sank to an extremely low level.
i am a bit worried about depletion of testosterone.  is this risky?
altho i am happy about the reduction of psa, the side effects are debilitating.  extremely tired all day. low energy level.  how long will these lasts?   living this way is very depressing.
can other men relate their experiences with prostasol.
thanks for feedback.
"inedal"

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by DocTV on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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I have not been on prostasol but I was on androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) which causes the testosterone level to drop to zero. If the prostasol does the same thing of decreasing the testosterone level and if it does take it to zero you will experience the same effects as someone on ADT. Those side effects are not great. To name a few that you could experience are hotflashes, loss of energy, loss of libido, no erections or ejaculations, loss of muscle mass and strength, disruption of your emotions--depression, mood swings, becoming very emotional, loss or reduction in short term memory, breast enlargement, possibility if the testosterone goes to zero for a long time to have loss of bone mineral density that could lead to osteoporosis, loss of body hair and there are others not as common as these. There is as list of about 25 side effects. You may experience some of these but not necessarily all. When the testosterone climbs toward normal these symtoms are reverse.

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by inedal on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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thanks for your comprehensive list of horrible things to look forward to.

is there any point to doing something to raise my testosterone level, in order to avoid some of these side effects? or would that send my psa up to new high levels?

many thanks for feedback.

 

On 11/1/2008 DocTV wrote:

I have not been on prostasol but I was on androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) which causes the testosterone level to drop to zero. If the prostasol does the same thing of decreasing the testosterone level and if it does take it to zero you will experience the same effects as someone on ADT. Those side effects are not great. To name a few that you could experience are hotflashes, loss of energy, loss of libido, no erections or ejaculations, loss of muscle mass and strength, disruption of your emotions--depression, mood swings, becoming very emotional, loss or reduction in short term memory, breast enlargement, possibility if the testosterone goes to zero for a long time to have loss of bone mineral density that could lead to osteoporosis, loss of body hair and there are others not as common as these. There is as list of about 25 side effects. You may experience some of these but not necessarily all. When the testosterone climbs toward normal these symtoms are reverse.

 

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by jcr65566 on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 11/1/2008 inedal wrote:

my psa was 148 and after just 10 days of donsbach's prostasol, the psa went down to 48.
my testosterone level also sank to an extremely low level.
i am a bit worried about depletion of testosterone.  is this risky?
altho i am happy about the reduction of psa, the side effects are debilitating.  extremely tired all day. low energy level.  how long will these lasts?   living this way is very depressing.
can other men relate their experiences with prostasol.
thanks for feedback.
"inedal"

My PSA 10.2 another member posted this web address for me it a fox news video if you have prostate cancer it worth watching

http://www.healthcentral.com/prostate/alternative-prostate-c

patients with P/cancer  like you have been know to reduce there PSA to all most a PSA of 0.1 by having a treatment of very large dose of vitamin D and chemotherapy  together the very Large dose of vitamin D increases the potency of the chemo and grately lessens it effect on the body watch the video you see what I mean

 

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by Johnw100 on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 11/1/2008 inedal wrote:

thanks for your comprehensive list of horrible things to look forward to.

is there any point to doing something to raise my testosterone level, in order to avoid some of these side effects?

 


 

No it would be dangerous to fiddle with trying to increase hormone levels.

Testosterone stimulates the growth of prostate cancer, and hormone therapy works by reducing the levels of testosterone.

Some men experience more acute side effects than others: things that can influence this are:

Time, lifestyle changes, diet, supplements, exercise, change in medication.

You should read the book on hormone treatment and diet by Dr Myers if you have not already done so.

 

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by DocTV on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 AM

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Like John says you may not experience most of these side effects and if your testosterone level does not reach zero and stay there for some time, you are not going to get very many of these symptoms. Is the prostasol an androgen deprivation drug like Zoladex or Casodex or Lupron as that will give you an idea of what to expect?

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by jcr65566 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 11/1/2008 inedal wrote:

my psa was 148 and after just 10 days of donsbach's prostasol, the psa went down to 48.
my testosterone level also sank to an extremely low level.
i am a bit worried about depletion of testosterone.  is this risky?
altho i am happy about the reduction of psa, the side effects are debilitating.  extremely tired all day. low energy level.  how long will these lasts?   living this way is very depressing.
can other men relate their experiences with prostasol.
thanks for feedback.
"inedal"

http://www.healthcentral.com/prostate/alternative-prostate-c

hi Inedal I have prostrate cancer to I come acros the video above is from fox news it about an elderly prostrate cancer patient who was treaded by a doctor, for prostrate cancer  the patient  PSA went  down to 0 by taking large dose of Vitamin D and at the same time being treated with chemo the vitamin D dos two things it protects the body from the chemo and opens the prostrate cancer up to the chemo  I thought it might be usefull to you Cheers Ray

Also please be very carful of he donsbach's prostasol,I know it  brought your the psa down to 48. witch is good but what you don’t know is donsbach's prostasol can cause Thromboembolism see the link below

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18602145

Thromboembolism: Formation in a blood vessel of a clot (thrombus) that breaks loose and is carried by the blood stream to plug another vessel. The clot may plug a vessel in the lungs (pulmonary embolism), brain (stroke), gastrointestinal tract, kidneys, or leg. Thromboembolism is an important cause of morbidity (disease) and mortality (death), especially in adults. Treatment may involve anticoagulants (bloodthinners), aspirin, or vasodilators (drugs that relax and widen vessels).


 

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by jcr65566 on Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 11/1/2008 inedal wrote:

my psa was 148 and after just 10 days of donsbach's prostasol, the psa went down to 48.
my testosterone level also sank to an extremely low level.
i am a bit worried about depletion of testosterone.  is this risky?
altho i am happy about the reduction of psa, the side effects are debilitating.  extremely tired all day. low energy level.  how long will these lasts?   living this way is very depressing.
can other men relate their experiences with prostasol.
thanks for feedback.
"inedal"

 

Hi  inedal I just remberd CC member Tates posted that link in a post last week thanks Tates

http://www.healthcentral.com/prostate/alternative-prostate-c

 

RE: prostasol

by blujonny on Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:00 AM

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This topic might be old, but I would like to mention that any substance that contains phytoestrogen elements have the potential for blood clots and stroke, but they are rare. Note the study you referenced only included 2 patients!! Most doctors if educated well enough will mention the option of taking a blood thinner (if they are at risk) while taking any drug which has the potential of these side effects.

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by jcr65566 on Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:00 AM

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I’m trying out a  products my doctor told me about  called Trinovin it contains isoflavones .mostly from red clover.These mimic sex hormones like testosterone and estrogens or androgens if they get to the prostrate cancer receptor first they will block it. so the sex hormone like testosterone cant get in it works on any hormone cancer

My doctor said  if you have prostrate cancer this is less expensive has far less of the side effects that hormone treatment and it produces more effective results 

 cheers RAy

If you want to have a look at this more closly just  type in Google eather  Trinovin or isoflavones

 this come from one of the markiting  sites

Trinovin is a natural isoflavone dietary supplement that can assist in maintaining normal prostate and urinary function, health and quality of life in men, particularly those over 45 years of age. Trinovin has been developed following original scientific research and clinical trials in men.

The importance of isoflavones for men
Isoflavones are found in legumes such as lentils, red clover and chick peas. Research has found that men who consume higher amounts of isoflavones are more likely to maintain normal prostate and urinary health later in life.

Men in 'Western' cultures typically have a low intake of legumes and therefore isoflavones. Trinovin contains all four major dietary isoflavones: biochanin A, formononetin, daidzein and geinstein with a high biochanin A ratio.

 Each tablet contains 40mg of a standard ratio of the four isoflavones (biochanin A, formononetin, daidzein and genistein) extracted from red clover.

Other ingredients include: calcium hydrogen phosphate and microcrystalline cellulose.

Trinovin is free of sugar, yeast, milk derivatives, wheat, cornstarch, gluten, preservatives, artificial colours and flavours

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