temperature can kill prostrate cancer

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temperature can kill prostrate cancer

by jcr65566 on Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:00 AM

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hi you know  cancer cell die at 108F an ideas that’s been around for a while when doctor in Japan were working out how to kill prostrate cancer cells they found that they died at a  temperature of  108F 42c  this is how High Intensity Focused Ultrasound (HIFU) works but at a temperature of  200F to kill the cancer in  the prostrate gland this takes about three hours. A doctor friend of mine  said there a new theory on how to kill procreate cancer cells in the prostrate. Gland just by heating it up doctors have know for years  that Cancer cells die at 108f (42c). he said A device like a cattier could be  inserted and travel up to inside of  the prostrate gland and warm water can  then be passed in and then out of the device heating it up and killing  off most of  the cancer then if needed a low dose of chemo can be use on the rest of the  weakened cancer cells killing it also  he said  this  tempter of 108F will not harm normal cells  but will kill cancer cells this may be also be able to be done through the rectum as well at the moment it just and idea our body  get a fever to fight disease may be some day some one will try it Cheers Ray

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by d2322 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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Why not just use HIFU on early stage cancer?

http://www.edap-tms.com/en_US/products-services/ablatherm-hi

 

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by jcr65566 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 12/9/2008 d2322 wrote:

Why not just use HIFU on early stage cancer?

http://www.edap-tms.com/en_US/products-services/ablatherm-hi

 


This HIFU  treatment in Australia is cost about $20,000 its not covered by Medicare or MBF so it out of my price range there must be an other more affordable way  to do this, one felow patient suggested putting an electric Hair curlers up my,,,  will you know what I mean the must be another Way

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by d2322 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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I don't think money is an object when it comes to killing cancer. I don't like the idea of watching it grow, then doing something about it.  Looks like the HIFU has good cooling system.  Did you acually read the info?

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by d2322 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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Did you take a good  look at the total costs of the other treatments?

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by Hoffmnron on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 12/7/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

hi you know  cancer cell die at 108F an ideas that’s been around for a while when doctor in Japan were working out how to kill prostrate cancer cells they found that they died at a  temperature of  108F 42c  this is how High Intensity Focused Ultrasound (HIFU) works but at a temperature of  200F to kill the cancer in  the prostrate gland this takes about three hours. A doctor friend of mine  said there a new theory on how to kill procreate cancer cells in the prostrate. Gland just by heating it up doctors have know for years  that Cancer cells die at 108f (42c). he said A device like a cattier could be  inserted and travel up to inside of  the prostrate gland and warm water can  then be passed in and then out of the device heating it up and killing  off most of  the cancer then if needed a low dose of chemo can be use on the rest of the  weakened cancer cells killing it also  he said  this  tempter of 108F will not harm normal cells  but will kill cancer cells this may be also be able to be done through the rectum as well at the moment it just and idea our body  get a fever to fight disease may be some day some one will try it Cheers Ray


Cryo kills the cells on the cold side.  Interesting targeted focal therapy approach is being developed at the University of Colorado.  The prostate is biopsied every 5cm (40 - 100 sites).  This "map" presents a much more accurate view of where the cancer lies in the prostate.  If it is low GLeason in only two or three sites, that are not close to nerves or vital organs, only the cancer site in treated, leaving the prostate intact.  )f 200 patients, about 60 have gone on to receive the therapy.  See www.alprostate.com.  I am considering this therapy.

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by jcr65566 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 12/9/2008 Hoffmnron wrote:

 

On 12/7/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

hi you know  cancer cell die at 108F an ideas that’s been around for a while when doctor in Japan were working out how to kill prostrate cancer cells they found that they died at a  temperature of  108F 42c  this is how High Intensity Focused Ultrasound (HIFU) works but at a temperature of  200F to kill the cancer in  the prostrate gland this takes about three hours. A doctor friend of mine  said there a new theory on how to kill procreate cancer cells in the prostrate. Gland just by heating it up doctors have know for years  that Cancer cells die at 108f (42c). he said A device like a cattier could be  inserted and travel up to inside of  the prostrate gland and warm water can  then be passed in and then out of the device heating it up and killing  off most of  the cancer then if needed a low dose of chemo can be use on the rest of the  weakened cancer cells killing it also  he said  this  tempter of 108F will not harm normal cells  but will kill cancer cells this may be also be able to be done through the rectum as well at the moment it just and idea our body  get a fever to fight disease may be some day some one will try it Cheers Ray


Cryo kills the cells on the cold side.  Interesting targeted focal therapy approach is being developed at the University of Colorado.  The prostate is biopsied every 5cm (40 - 100 sites).  This "map" presents a much more accurate view of where the cancer lies in the prostate.  If it is low GLeason in only two or three sites, that are not close to nerves or vital organs, only the cancer site in treated, leaving the prostate intact.  )f 200 patients, about 60 have gone on to receive the therapy.  See www.alprostate.com.  I am considering this therapy.


I  think this sort of treatment  has merit  I read that if you have this You may wonder how this type of treatment works. When your procedure begins, you will be under local or general anesthesia. About six cyroprobes are inserted near the area and liquid argon is passed through the probes. This freezes the area where the cancer is located and the cancer is frozen, causing it to die. This whole procedure usually takes less than two hours and you will most likely not have to spend a lot of time recovering in the hospital. Most patients are allowed to go home within a few hours after the prostate cancer cryo treatment is completed. it leaves the normal prostrate cells alone so the prostrate may  still work unlike all the other treatments around  but

I’ve also read that even one biopsy can spread the cancer cell through out the body I don’t know what  these patient having biopsies every 6 month will serve if you know you have cancer why have more cheers Ray

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by Hoffmnron on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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Where have you read that biopsies spread cancer cells?

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by jcr65566 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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for right now I cant tell you where I got this from. or when it just some thing I put in my files a while a go  it only one of quite a number of the reports Iv got  on oncologist reporting metastasis after  biopsy were done  all the best Ray 

I was contacted by a lady who successfully dealt with her breast cancer from 1994 to present. She refused all conventional medical procedures. Last year her conventional oncologist convinced her that she was a fool not to get a needle biopsy. This lady now has new tumors growing at each puncture site. Of course her oncologist now has detailed information to help decide which chemos to use for this now rapidly metastasizing cancer. I repeatedly make this same observation with prostate cancer. I rarely see distant metastasis until after a biopsy -- and then it rapidly goes everywhere including the bones. Dr. Vincent Gammill, Center for the Study of Natural Oncology (CSNO) Solana Beach, California (non profit)

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by jcr65566 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00 AM

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On 12/9/2008 Hoffmnron wrote:

 

On 12/7/2008 jcr65566 wrote:

hi you know  cancer cell die at 108F an ideas that’s been around for a while when doctor in Japan were working out how to kill prostrate cancer cells they found that they died at a  temperature of  108F 42c  this is how High Intensity Focused Ultrasound (HIFU) works but at a temperature of  200F to kill the cancer in  the prostrate gland this takes about three hours. A doctor friend of mine  said there a new theory on how to kill procreate cancer cells in the prostrate. Gland just by heating it up doctors have know for years  that Cancer cells die at 108f (42c). he said A device like a cattier could be  inserted and travel up to inside of  the prostrate gland and warm water can  then be passed in and then out of the device heating it up and killing  off most of  the cancer then if needed a low dose of chemo can be use on the rest of the  weakened cancer cells killing it also  he said  this  tempter of 108F will not harm normal cells  but will kill cancer cells this may be also be able to be done through the rectum as well at the moment it just and idea our body  get a fever to fight disease may be some day some one will try it Cheers Ray


Cryo kills the cells on the cold side.  Interesting targeted focal therapy approach is being developed at the University of Colorado.  The prostate is biopsied every 5cm (40 - 100 sites).  This "map" presents a much more accurate view of where the cancer lies in the prostate.  If it is low GLeason in only two or three sites, that are not close to nerves or vital organs, only the cancer site in treated, leaving the prostate intact.  )f 200 patients, about 60 have gone on to receive the therapy.  See www.alprostate.com.  I am considering this therapy.


 

I’ve read reports on cancer patients with sever cancer going into complete  remission after being struck by lighting I feel maybe it was the heat generated by the lighting and not the electricity in the lighting that put them into rumination what do you think  

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