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RE: Holy Grail

by patromano on Mon Sep 16, 2013 01:19 PM

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On Sep 16, 2013 5:17 AM azuredu wrote:

On Sep 15, 2013 4:46 PM seewhy wrote:

Hi Azuredu,

thank you again for your help. i am very grateful.

i just looked over the ketogenic diet (which i have seen before) and i see some similarites with the diet i am on. main difference is the fruit-- ie red grapes, citrus and berries. while i love them all i was worried about the sugar... i do not eat meat or chicken, (only seafood and shellfish) but regularly eat brown rice & beans for complete protein--but it sounds like that is bad on the ketogenic diet--do you know? i can switch to more seafood but i do love my rice and beans  :)

also, i was wondering, how much modified citrus pectin do you suggest per day?

thank you again for all of your suggestions. Wishing you good health and peace,

cindy

Hi Cindy,

I take modified citrus pectin as indicated (15g/day). This is what most studies are based on. But I don't care skipping one dose from time to time, for convenience reasons. After all, it's just about prevention.

I still eat rice, but simply much less than before. I used to love rice, but when the new diet is established, the addict is gone, and I no longer crave for it.

And I take a bit of everything: meat, chicken, duck, fish, cheese. The fundamental difference is that now I basically skip the breakfast, and no snack before noon. In other words, a daily fasting window of 15-16 hours. This allows me to get the benefit without a too strict diet.

The problem is such a diet always put some stress to the digestion duct. So I have to experiment with all the options to find out the best one that my stomac may sustain in the duration.

Is there was a connection between mod.citrus pectin and salvestrols? Are they not basically the same thing- ie. extracted from the skins of organic citrus fruits? 

RE: Holy Grail

by patromano on Mon Sep 16, 2013 01:21 PM

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On Sep 16, 2013 1:19 PM patromano wrote:

On Sep 16, 2013 5:17 AM azuredu wrote:

On Sep 15, 2013 4:46 PM seewhy wrote:

Hi Azuredu,

thank you again for your help. i am very grateful.

i just looked over the ketogenic diet (which i have seen before) and i see some similarites with the diet i am on. main difference is the fruit-- ie red grapes, citrus and berries. while i love them all i was worried about the sugar... i do not eat meat or chicken, (only seafood and shellfish) but regularly eat brown rice & beans for complete protein--but it sounds like that is bad on the ketogenic diet--do you know? i can switch to more seafood but i do love my rice and beans  :)

also, i was wondering, how much modified citrus pectin do you suggest per day?

thank you again for all of your suggestions. Wishing you good health and peace,

cindy

Hi Cindy,

I take modified citrus pectin as indicated (15g/day). This is what most studies are based on. But I don't care skipping one dose from time to time, for convenience reasons. After all, it's just about prevention.

I still eat rice, but simply much less than before. I used to love rice, but when the new diet is established, the addict is gone, and I no longer crave for it.

And I take a bit of everything: meat, chicken, duck, fish, cheese. The fundamental difference is that now I basically skip the breakfast, and no snack before noon. In other words, a daily fasting window of 15-16 hours. This allows me to get the benefit without a too strict diet.

The problem is such a diet always put some stress to the digestion duct. So I have to experiment with all the options to find out the best one that my stomac may sustain in the duration.

Is there was a connection between mod.citrus "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mod.citrus " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">mod.citrus pectin and salvestrols? Are they not basically the same thing- ie. extracted from the skins of organic citrus fruits? 

Sorry for the typo- I meant is there a connection between the two.

RE: Holy Grail

by seewhy on Mon Sep 16, 2013 03:12 PM

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hi jentan,

thank you for your advice. i will order salvestrols today.

i am er+  pr+ her2 -

i was diagnosed after a severe injury to breast; had LARGE swelling/probable hematoma. two docs have very different diagnosis. One says entire lumpy breast is riddled with cancer and says none is inflamed/infected tissue, which just does not seem logical to me. (fyi: no palpable lump prior to injury) other says it is very small tumor but bulk of breast is still healing from injury. My test results are "clinically vague" -- mammogram simply shows fibrocystic tissue but PET/MRI shows hot spot where injury took place. Every ultrasound is different. Even biopsy area (marker) is vague. looks like a tiny calcification but some angles show nothing at all. will go for 3rd opinion soon but avm issue is delaying treatment. i see a neurologist friday.

it may sound strange but i really am feeling great, not even stressed. the vast differences in my diagnosis admittedly have me wary of traditional medicine - i realize now they know less than i had hoped! but i am grateful for every day and know i am blessed to have so much support. i am just trying to do any and everything i can for positive health--physically, mentally & spiritually. this message board is so helpful. so glad i found it :)

good health & peace to all,

cindy

ps. re: cause: who knows? i have a healthy lifestyle & weight (daily exercise, whole food diet, lots of fresh veggies & seafood) but from 2001 - 2008 i had a lot of stress. Lost 7 people i loved-both sudden deaths and long drawn out farewells. cared for dying family members & children of family that died. i was definitely run down.  :(

RE: Holy Grail

by seewhy on Mon Sep 16, 2013 03:31 PM

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Hi Azuredu,

Thank you for your reply. I will start the MCP asap.

Re: diet. i tried ketogenic diet yesterday (1st time). Total carb intake 52 grams. is that too much? do you have a # you try to stay below?

this is what i did:
1/2 glass of oj & coffee in am.
plain greek yogurt w/small nectarine for lunch.
Huge salad of mixed dark greens for dinner with tuna salad.

since i do not eat meat, i have limited options. i ate swiss cheese and smoked salmon yesterday as snacks, instead of fruit or chick peas or rice & beans as i normally do. so most of carbs came from the oj and nectarine.

i believe i can keep this diet up by adding eggs but i am so used to eating lots of fruit that i am concerned about constipation now. maybe my snacks should be green veggies ie broccoli/celery/brussels sprouts instead?

your thoughts?

thanks again for all your help,
cindy

ps-sorry for all the questions--i dont mean to be a pest

RE: Holy Grail

by azuredu on Mon Sep 16, 2013 04:12 PM

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Hi Cindy,

I'm sorry but I am just a self-treating patient but not a doctor. You've asked a tricky question that I feel I don't have the expertise to answer.

The onset of a ketogenic diet is a tricky, and sometimes risky, process. Because the metabolic status of the body needs time and incentives to change to fit the diet (ketosis). That's why medical advice is normally recommended for that. I myself have got into some risks (see my other posts), and each individual is different.

At least, you'll need some home testing equipments (e.g. ketostix).

What I understand, is that if you don't take a nasty 48h fasting to start with, the body needs several weeks to get into ketosis. Before this stage, a too severe restriction of carb may bring you into a dangerous hypoglycemia. That's what I experienced with my mountain hiking; fortunately it ended up OK.

For the recipies, the fat in eggs is not very good. I take fatty fishes like salmon, sardine, etc. that are known to be good for the general health.

And just a comment about doctors: I think that doctors do know more than patients. But they have legal bindings: they don't want to use non-conventional methods and get sued by the patients who should die on them. Moreover, if you consider the time a doctor can spend on each individual patient, you know that there is no room for any deep details.

RE: Holy Grail

by bigsky20 on Mon Sep 16, 2013 05:32 PM

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On Sep 16, 2013 3:12 PM seewhy wrote:

hi jentan,

thank you for your advice. i will order salvestrols today.

i am er+  pr+ her2 -

i was diagnosed after a severe injury to breast; had LARGE swelling/probable hematoma. two docs have very different diagnosis. One says entire lumpy breast is riddled with cancer and says none is inflamed/infected tissue, which just does not seem logical to me. (fyi: no palpable lump prior to injury) other says it is very small tumor but bulk of breast is still healing from injury. My test results are "clinically vague" -- mammogram simply shows fibrocystic tissue but PET/MRI shows hot spot where injury took place. Every ultrasound is different. Even biopsy area (marker) is vague. looks like a tiny calcification but some angles show nothing at all. will go for 3rd opinion soon but avm issue is delaying treatment. i see a neurologist friday.

it may sound strange but i really am feeling great, not even stressed. the vast differences in my diagnosis admittedly have me wary of traditional medicine - i realize now they know less than i had hoped! but i am grateful for every day and know i am blessed to have so much support. i am just trying to do any and everything i can for positive health--physically, mentally & spiritually. this message board is so helpful. so glad i found it :)

good health & peace to all,

cindy

ps. re: cause: who knows? i have a healthy lifestyle & weight (daily exercise, whole food diet, lots of fresh veggies & seafood) but from 2001 - 2008 i had a lot of stress. Lost 7 people i loved-both sudden deaths and long drawn out farewells. cared for dying family members & children of family that died. i was definitely run down.  :(

Cindy, You won't believe it, but I got cancer on a haematoma with no palpable tumor or suspicions in the area. I was diagnosed with the same cancer as yours back in 2007. The cancer that I had kept on returning on the surgical site because my military doctors didn't leave good enough margins. Other than that, there hasn't been any spreading to lymph node or other areas. I also had trauma in 1993 when my mother died and I held onto the pain for years. I'm so sorry for all your losses and you've gone through too much for one person to handle. I just want to offer you hope and you sound great and you aren't stressed which is aewsome! If you haven't had them mess with you yet and if you haven't been cut on, If I were you, I'd consider watching the area if your about to try alternative methods. If you do have a haematoma that just won't go away, it might be best to have it removed eventually. Also, get third opinions if you have to and go see the best doctors. I wish that I would have gone to MD Anderson years ago. They told me that I pretty much would have been cancer free all these years if I was operated on correctly the first time. Big Sky

RE: Holy Grail

by bigsky20 on Mon Sep 16, 2013 05:49 PM

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On Sep 16, 2013 3:31 PM seewhy wrote:

Hi Azuredu,

Thank you for your reply. I will start the MCP asap.

Re: diet. i tried ketogenic diet yesterday (1st time). Total carb intake 52 grams. is that too much? do you have a # you try to stay below?

this is what i did:
1/2 glass of oj & coffee in am.
plain greek yogurt w/small nectarine for lunch.
Huge salad of mixed dark greens for dinner with tuna salad.

since i do not eat meat, i have limited options. i ate swiss cheese and smoked salmon yesterday as snacks, instead of fruit or chick peas or rice & beans as i normally do. so most of carbs came from the oj and nectarine.

i believe i can keep this diet up by adding eggs but i am so used to eating lots of fruit that i am concerned about constipation now. maybe my snacks should be green veggies ie broccoli/celery/brussels sprouts instead?

your thoughts?

thanks again for all your help,
cindy

ps-sorry for all the questions--i dont mean to be a pest

Cindy, Probably the best Ketogenic Diet out for cancer right now is 'The Cantin Ketogenic Diet for Cancer. The author cured her cancer and she also had the same kind as you and I. Her diet consists of a 1/1 ratio protein and fat, although fat can be higher than protein and no more than 20 grams of low glycemic carbs. The diet doesn't work alone and it needs help with therapeutics such as Salvestrols and whatever else one chooses. If you go to her Face Book Group and click on her files, she updates supplements that she takes and has taken with her diet. I had fibromyalgia pain before the diet and now I don't, so I know that my body was allergic to allergen foods. Her diet omits them. No Dairy, sugar, glutens and I went a step further by knocking out high lectin foods and also eliminated lectins in nuts by soaking them in salt water. One can do the Keto Diet for a good year, depending on their needs and then continue to eat the same way, but add in more good carbs and more berries to get out of ketosis, but remain healthy. I might even do juice fasting down the road or something along that line. Anyway, it's a new life style and after the first initial "keto flu" you may feel better than ever! Here is a link to Elaine's group and I also have a group on FB called Salvestrols if you're interested. Also, if you need a book on Salvestrols, please pm me your address and I'll send you one. It's Brian Schaefer's book and he was kind enough to send me a few free copies to give away to new people since I opened the Face Book page. He's so kind and the book is really informative. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElaineAlternativeHealthTips/ Big Sky

RE: Holy Grail

by seewhy on Wed Sep 18, 2013 03:37 PM

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Dear BigSky,

wow. i am so sorry for all that you have gone through. may i ask--what are good enough margins? i have heard various things and wonder what you think.

My hematoma was probably ruptured during the biopsy as my breast became SO black and blue. and green and yellow too. everyone (docs, nurses) commented that they'd never seen anything like it. so now it finally feels like it is healing. less and less pain and lumpiness everyday. i still have no idea where the actual cancerous mass is which feels weird. the tests results are just too vague.

i have been on the ketogenic diet for the past 4 days but confess i dont feel so great. this morning have small red dots on my feet and now tingling all over feet/lower legs. i am going to push back on this diet until i can do it with the support of a nutritionist. going back to simple clean eating of fresh vegetables, fruit and seafood.

I ordered MCP and will pick up Salvestrols Friday. Hopefully i can find a great nutritionist asap as well.

How are you now, Big SKy? What role has diet played in your health? any info greatly appreciated.

good health and peace,

cindy

RE: Holy Grail

by cpmty on Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:52 AM

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HI BIGSKY20, I will like to know more of salvestrols. It seems you know a lot. I too have ca. in my breast but it seems i am doing ok now. But (and I am not sure you will know or not) I was wating for results from my test, I have lung nodulos (? I think its written like this?) that I thougt were going to get smaller but it didn't happen. I was wondering if savestrols will help with that. I remember asking that before but can't remember the answer. If anyone know it maight or will work I will like to know. I will like to start soon (I have an emergency and leaving for a few days but I will like an answer so when I ocombe back I can start take them... at least I can try to see if they work. Can you send me info. too. or if you can sent me a copy, I would really appreciate it. thank you. 

RE: Holy Grail

by bigsky20 on Thu Sep 19, 2013 03:51 AM

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On Sep 19, 2013 12:52 AM cpmty wrote:

HI BIGSKY20, I will like to know more of salvestrols. It seems you know a lot. I too have ca. in my breast but it seems i am doing ok now. But (and I am not sure you will know or not) I was wating for results from my test, I have lung nodulos (? I think its written like this?) that I thougt were going to get smaller but it didn't happen. I was wondering if savestrols will help with that. I remember asking that before but can't remember the answer. If anyone know it maight or will work I will like to know. I will like to start soon (I have an emergency and leaving for a few days but I will like an answer so when I ocombe back I can start take them... at least I can try to see if they work. Can you send me info. too. or if you can sent me a copy, I would really appreciate it. thank you. 

Hi Cpmty, Yes, of course I will! Just private message me your address. I'm not sure about lung nodules, but I'll see what info I can find for you. Please let us know what your test results say! What are you taking Cpmty? BigSky
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