alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

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alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by loten on Fri Oct 01, 2010 03:02 PM

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I had a radical prostatectomy 10 years ago with recurrence and radiation again with recurrance.
I've been told by Dana Farber that there is nothing to stop it.
Have been drinking pom wonderfull for 2 years with no slowing the psa velocity.
Looking for others experience with pom w and other options including diet.

much appreciated, Stu

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by skidan on Fri Oct 01, 2010 03:26 PM

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On Oct 01, 2010 3:02 PM loten wrote:

I had a radical prostatectomy 10 years ago with recurrence and radiation again with recurrance.
I've been told by Dana Farber that there is nothing to stop it.
Have been drinking pom wonderfull for 2 years with no slowing the psa velocity.
Looking for others experience with pom w and other options including diet.

much appreciated, Stu

Stu,

I am sorry to hear about your rising psa. I have advanced prostate cancer I was diagnosed May 2005. After my radiation treatment failed in July 2006 I have used diet, supplements and life style changes to keep my cancer in remisssion. My last psa 09/14/2010 was 0.51. I still have my prostate and I don't use any lowering testosterone supplements. In fact my testosterone went up 40 percent from the last test.  I don't advocate pomegranate juice because of the sugar and additives, I use pomegranate extract instead.

If you would like more infromation please visit my web site at

www.alternativeprostatecancer.com

Some tips, purify your water, eat organic foods as much as possible. Stay away from all sodas, corn products and omega 6 as much as possible.

Hope this helps

Dan

 

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by alady on Fri Oct 01, 2010 04:58 PM

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I would try Reishi, it's a mushroom, but buy it in supplement form as they don't sell it in the grocery store, it's not edible.....magic mushroom anyone??  PubMed has run tests and says it increases your T-cells in your immune system, that's the only thing that will help you is to get your immune system reved up.

POM has been sued by the FTA for false statements, but they've made so much money they have settled with them...buy off???  I wouldn't waste any more money on any type of pomegrante, it's the same as an orange.

Best wishes

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by skidan on Fri Oct 01, 2010 05:24 PM

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On Oct 01, 2010 4:58 PM alady wrote:

I would try Reishi, it's a mushroom, but buy it in supplement form as they don't sell it in the grocery store, it's not edible.....magic mushroom anyone??  PubMed has run tests and says it increases your T-cells in your immune system, that's the only thing that will help you is to get your immune system reved up.

POM has been sued by the FTA for false statements, but they've made so much money they have settled with them...buy off???  I wouldn't waste any more money on any type of pomegrante, it's the same as an orange.

Best wishes

Alady

  Here we go again, you stating false information about Pom L. What happened was that pomL posted on their web site a study done at UCLA that indicated that pomegranates on the average slow down prostate cancer four fold. Since Poml is not a drug company the FDA asked them to remove the study or they were going to treat them as drug company not a food company.

Pomegranates have the highest anti oxidante than any food out there. They are no way like an orange. I wish you would post information you can support. I can support my statements with fact not opinion. Pomegrantes have kept my cancer in remission and others. Why don't you stick to your HIFU comments and keep your negative opinions off alternative treatments.

Dan

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by skidan on Fri Oct 01, 2010 05:29 PM

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Here is the study that Pom L posted, here are my facts where are yourS?

Post-Treatment PSA Increase Levels Off With Daily Pomegranate Juice

WebMD Health News

July 5, 2006 -- A glass of pomegranate juice a day may keep prostate cancer recurrence away, UCLA researchers report.

Treatment cures two out of three men with early prostate cancer. But after treatment, a third of men have rising levels of prostate-specific antigen -- PSA -- in their blood. Of these men, 34% of them progressed to deadly, metastatic prostate cancer within 15 years. The faster PSA levels double, the sooner a man is likely to see his prostate cancer return.

Cancer-fighting chemicals are found in many foods. One food rich in these kinds of chemicals is pomegranate juice. Might pomegranate juice slow -- or even reverse -- this post-treatment increase in PSA? Yes, find UCLA researcher Allan Pantuck, MD, and colleagues.

Pantuck's team enrolled 46 men in a study funded by the owners of POM Wonderful Co., the maker of the pomegranate juice used in the study. The men all had detectable PSA after cancer treatment; all drank 8 ounces of pomegranate juice every day.

The men's overall PSA doubling time was nearly four times slower after they began drinking pomegranate juice. Sixteen of the 46 patients had a decrease in PSA levels -- and in four, PSA levels dropped by half.

"I was surprised when I saw such an improvement in PSA numbers," Pantuck said, in a news release. "This is not a cure, but we may be able to change the way prostate cancer grows."

Pantuck says that pomegranate juice may allow 65- to 70-year-old men treated for prostate cancer to outlive their risk of dying from their cancer.

Prostate cancer patients with rising PSA levels usually opt for treatment with drugs that block testosterone. This "chemical castration" can have serious side effects, including bone loss, depression, and sexual dysfunction. It's possible that drinking pomegranate juice can delay the need for such treatments.

Pantuck says that some men in the study have been drinking pomegranate juice -- and keeping their PSA levels stable -- for more than three years.

"The juice seems to be working," he notes.

Because of these promising results, pomegranate juice will be studied in a major, placebo-controlled clinical trial at 10 U.S. medical centers.

The study findings appear in the July 1 issue of Clinical Cancer Research.

SOURCES: Web MD

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by alady on Sat Oct 02, 2010 03:23 PM

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This is new,  Sept. 28, 2010...so you probably haven't read it...

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100928/ftc-rips-pom " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100928/ftc-rips-pom

FTC Charges POM Wonderful With Making False Health Claims About Products
By Bill Hendrick
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Laura J. Martin, MD

Sept. 28, 2010 -- The Federal Trade Commission has charged Los Angeles-based POM Wonderful with over-hyping its products by making false and unscientific claims that they can prevent or be used to treat disorders ranging from erectile dysfunction to prostate cancer and heart disease.

The FTC issued an administrative complaint charging the makers of POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice and POMx supplements with making misleading claims about its products, thus violating federal law.

“Any consumer who sees POM Wonderful products as a silver bullet against disease has been misled,” David Vladeck, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, says in a news release. “When a company touts scientific research in its advertising, the research must squarely support the claims made. Contrary to POM Wonderful’s advertising, the available scientific information does not prove that POM Juice or POMx effectively treats or prevents these illnesses.”

(some edited out of the story....)

Settlement Reached in Related Case

The FTC statement says that in a related case, Mark Dreher, POM Wonderful’s former head of scientific and regulatory affairs and expert endorser, has agreed to stop making any disease treatment or prevention claims for a POM Wonderful product unless it first “comports” with requirements set forth by the FDA.

The FTC says administrative complaints are issued when it believes that law has been violated.

read entire article at WebMD:

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100928/ftc-rips-pom " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100928/ftc-rips-pom

 

Last year Lynda Resnick owner of POM, wrote a book about creative marketing strategy, "How to uncover the Hidden Gems in your Business".  

Of course I still await the science behind it all from the National Institure of Health in Bethesda.   

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by skidan on Sat Oct 02, 2010 03:46 PM

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On Oct 02, 2010 3:23 PM alady wrote:

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FTC Charges POM Wonderful With Making False Health Claims About Products
By Bill Hendrick
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Laura J. Martin, MD

Sept. 28, 2010 -- The Federal Trade Commission has charged Los Angeles-based POM Wonderful with over-hyping its products by making false and unscientific claims that they can prevent or be used to treat disorders ranging from erectile dysfunction to prostate cancer and heart disease.

The FTC issued an administrative complaint charging the makers of POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice and POMx supplements with making misleading claims about its products, thus violating federal law.

“Any consumer who sees POM Wonderful products as a silver bullet against disease has been misled,” David Vladeck, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, says in a news release. “When a company touts scientific research in its advertising, the research must squarely support the claims made. Contrary to POM Wonderful’s advertising, the available scientific information does not prove that POM Juice or POMx effectively treats or prevents these illnesses.”

(some edited out of the story....)

Settlement Reached in Related Case

The FTC statement says that in a related case, Mark Dreher, POM Wonderful’s former head of scientific and regulatory affairs and expert endorser, has agreed to stop making any disease treatment or prevention claims for a POM Wonderful product unless it first “comports” with requirements set forth by the FDA.

The FTC says administrative complaints are issued when it believes that law has been violated.

read entire article at WebMD:

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Last year Lynda Resnick owner of POM, wrote a book about creative marketing strategy, "How to uncover the Hidden Gems in your Business".  

Of course I still await the science behind it all from the National Institure of Health in Bethesda.   

This doesn't prove anything. If you read between the lines it is all about money and control. They want to steer people away from alternative treatments.

You can't discount the study by UCLA.

I swear you must work for one of these agencies.

Dan

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by skidan on Sat Oct 02, 2010 04:04 PM

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Lady until you have any scientific proof, not statements from FDA or FTC about money and control don't waste your time stating opinions for special interst groups.

You are lucky your husband didn't have advanced prostate cancer where there is no cure! The five year survival rate of 30% says it all.

If you don't work for FDA, FTC or big pharma I wonder what your agenda is in knocking something that has kept my cancer and others in remission?

Your ignorance on the subject overwhelms me.

Dan

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by Shemay on Sat Oct 02, 2010 05:12 PM

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Go to  PUB MED  home   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/  and use the words  pomegranate/prostate in the search box and you will get 36 results.   Here are just the first two

 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20832032

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20155621

 

RE: alternative treatments to prostate cancer?

by skidan on Sun Oct 03, 2010 02:31 PM

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On Oct 02, 2010 5:12 PM Shemay wrote:

Go to  PUB MED  home   http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/  "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/  " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/  and use the words  pomegranate/prostate in the search box and you will get 36 results.   Here are just the first two

 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20832032 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20832032 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20832032

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20155621 "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20155621 " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20155621

 

Thanks for these links. there are 36 abstracts  on the positive effects of pmegranates with prostate cancer. I have also read abstracts on the positive effects of pomegranates on lung, breast and colon cancer.

Dan

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