Mucus buildup and throat pain any suggestions on how to ease the pain

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Mucus buildup and throat pain any suggestions on how to ease the pain

by robiks46 on Sun Jul 17, 2011 04:21 AM

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Hi my husband is in his 5th week of Radiation has 3 more treatments left , chemo ended on July 8. His throat is so sore that he cannot get comfortable he uses Mugard rinse priscribed by doctor but does not seem to help he has a peg-tube and always tired. Any suggestions on what he can do to ease the pain and discomfort of the mucus?

 

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by REDVETTE on Sun Jul 17, 2011 05:29 AM

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So very sorry that you are going through this.  BUT - there is sooo much light at the end of the tunnel.  My husband is 2 1/2 years out of treatment and is doing pretty darned good considering the problems he had during all of this.   The pain and mucous is so very debilitating.  My husband wore the Fentanyl patch for about six months and used Lortab liquid for breakthrough pain.  He was totally on the PEG for far too many months (I have already forgotten how many - that is the neat part).   He used everything anyone suggested for the mucous but it is just part of the healing process - he used accupuncture, the Transderm Scop patch, he gargled with baking soda - you name it - we tried everything and it just took time.   We also rented a suction machine for the mucous.  Look to the future, stay positive, read read read - there is sooo much help on this forum.   Good luck and God Bless you on this journey.   Hugs and prayers!!  P.S. I hope to see you on this forum in July, 2013.  I know that you will be offering help and encouraging words to others for this horrific disease.  : )

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by Ladylacy on Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:03 AM

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My husband was diagnosed with laryngeal cancer in July 2010.  He underwent chemo and 35 radiation treatments.  Got an all clear at the end of November but in February the cancer was back.  He had a largynectomy 3/28/11.  The mucus has been with him since treatment started.  Nothing helps but remember each person is different.  There are lots that have the mucus clear up after treatment.  My husband had a PEG tube from 7/2010 until 5/2011.  The surgeon removed it once a swallow test was done.  Now we wish he hadn't because at times he can't swallow.  Found out he needs a dilation. 

During surgery it was found out that the radiation had completely closed off the back of his throat so they had to reconstruct his throat with a muscle from his chest wall. 

He was tired all the time and only just recently has gotten strength back.  The pain is gone now but he was able to cope with it because he doesn't like to use medications.  The doctors told him to use the pain pills because they would help in recovery.  Had to crush them up and put them in his PEG tube.

Just remember, everyone is different in how treatment effects them, what works for one won't for another.  We tried everything that people said worked for them but it didn't work for my husband.

Wishing you and your husband well.  Sharon

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by mark5004 on Thu Jul 21, 2011 02:44 PM

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Two things,

Magic mouthwash, it includes four key ingredients: Lidocaine, an anti fungal, a cortisone and an oral antibiotic.  Some periodicals say that this product has limited effect.  It doesn't!  Make sure that you gargle with it for at least 2 minutes and then swallow it.  This will reduce the size of the inflamed tissues and it makes the discomfort go away.

Next Dilauded, That first five weeks post "standard of care treatment" needs to include both patches "Fentanyl" and some oral 2mg Dilauded pills.  Dilauded is tiny and easy to crush.  Having the two pain remedies helped me get off of the pain medication faster because you can step down the patch strength without worry should you experience periodic discomfort.

For the mucus, consider using the anti-nausea medication that I suspect you still have.  Prochlorper and Phernegan (promethazine) are common.  These are excellent at getting rid of the mucus problem, they also settle you down by helping you get rest.  You need to be outspoken to the oncologist or radiation doctor about these problems.  These are common highly treatable issues.

The mornings are worse for mucus, the evenings are worse for pain.  This is the effect of the natural cortisone levels changing in the human body.

It won't be long before the mucus gives way to extreme dryness from the failure of the parotid glands.

Good luck,

 

Mark

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by musicalmike on Sat Jul 23, 2011 01:13 AM

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I would love to be able to give you a magical solution to the problem. You have been given some great suggestions already. I remember when I was at the same stage of treatment as your husband and felt the same way. It was without a doubt the worst thing I have ever dealt with. Unfortunately, this will continue for a while and will perhaps get worse. The effects of radiation have a lag time and will start to kick in around now. I know this sounds bad and it sucks big time. The only thing I can say is "hold on, it will get better". I was told this same thing, and at the time, it was very difficult to grasp. I really did think that it could not get any worse and I could not see it getting better. I am here to tell you that both things did happen. I never thought that the buckets full of mucus and unreal pain would go away, but it did. Just know....it will get better. Just tell him to put his head down and push through this bad time and it will get better. You are one of his largest sources of strength and healing right now. Just continue to help him through this and be patient with him during this terrible time for both of you. Because I know what it was like for my wife and I could not have done it without her. She made me feel so comfortable when I was in so much pain. I think that is almost as much if not more help then any pain meds I could have got. Good luck!!

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by Jfrancisco on Tue Jul 26, 2011 05:38 PM

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Everyone is giving you right advise, it will get unbareable for a while. Hang in there it will get better. Day by Day I remember crying to myself that i just couldnt do it. I did and it does get better. they gave me morphine sulfate in a eye dropper.  5 drops in the feeding tube and i was good to go. I also had the patch and narco/codine. The mucus became almost funny so much i was carrying a container arround with me. Just  hang in there lots of water down the tube. Water made me feel better and keep your head up you be fine.  

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by christee on Sat Feb 02, 2013 02:38 AM

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I will give a few very helpful suggestions; throw away the miracle mouthwash & find "dessert essence"  Tea Tree mouthwash. Its awesome. It is spearment  tates great & is sugar & alcohol free. Helps heal tongue & mouth (even if you cannot gargle) very quickly. Also "garden of Life" primal defense HSO Probiotic Formula 3 times aday in feeding tube food. Also "Life Force Muliple vitamins" by Bio Align. Try to put 4 a day spread out in feeding tube food. My husband had intense chemo & 34 radiation treatments and began eating chicken soup broth by mouth exactly 1 month after last treatment!!! Today is day 4 of eating by mouth & was able to eat "green fed" hamburger in organic onion,mushroom, greenbean soup!(Homemade YUM)He had lost 10 pounds a week, so lost about 80 pounds! :(  A mountain type of strong guy..yet we have been feeding him (even while tube feeding) totally organic non GMO foods. (We got rid of that Boost & other prefab foods)We are working on the throat mucus but just read a spoonful of ginger & honey helps as well as warm liquids like tea & honey, EVEN coffee! Also read tumeric & eucalyptus steam near bed. We pray & trust the Lord Jesus & my has He been faithful in leading & guiding us through this INTENSE CONDENSED difficult time.Well i guess thats what a Savour does..SAVES! ;D  Blessings through each of your own journeys. 

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by christee on Sat Feb 02, 2013 02:42 AM

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1 correction..the tumeric was seperate ..NOT  in the eucalyptus steam. Lol sorry.

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by jagerwin on Sat Feb 02, 2013 04:31 AM

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Hi,

It's a bit painful reading about your husband's pain, as it reminds me.... but we're hear to help, and you've gotten some great suggestions. I'll just note a few things that happened to me, or friends. 1. Not all pain medication is created equal, and so if you try something and it doesn't work, try something else. I know two folks who got relief from hydrocodone (Vicadin) but not oxycodone (Percoset). I am the opposite. And then there are the other meds mentioned here. So, just be prepared. And if you do end up on Vicodin or Percoset, know that they contain acetominophen (Tylenol); so if you still need the pain meds after a few months, I would switch to the generic form without the Tylenol.

2. I did not get great relief from the Magic Mouthwash; some, but it was disappointing. Still, others did, so give it a try, or one of the other rinses suggested. I did carry around a medium-sized mixing bowl, metal, which came in quite handy for either the vomiting or the mucus spitting. I was already tired and trying to run to the bathroom, or just walk back and forth to the sink all day, was too much. And metal is much better for cleaning this stuff out; don't use plastic, it absorbs the smells; and I was afraid of dropping anything glass.

3. For the upcoming dry mouth, I found great relief from a couple things; a gentle lemon rinse from my dentist; and she also gave me a mouth spray called Rain. I think the lemon stuff was mouthkote; little individual packets.

Well, I'm truly sorry y'all are having to do through this. As noted, there is a light, and yeah, for about two weeks after the last treatment it gets kinda dim there and you'll really need to be rooting for him (and keep the metal bucket handy), but then things begin to improve.

John

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