Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

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Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by ryliu_us on Thu Oct 10, 2013 08:57 PM

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I was wondering if anyone had positive experience with any specific alternative treatment or dietary supplement,  particularly one that worked well against pancreatic cancer?

A couple weeks ago, my 88 year old dad was diagnosed with stage 3 inoperable pancreatic cancer (adenocarcinoma), with a tumor wrapped around ciliac artery.   We talked to our oncologist and got a second opinion at Stanford.   The treatment options offered were either chemo only (gemzar + abraxin) or chemo plus radiation(Xeloda + Radiation).

Although my dad is relatively healthy, at his age, we don't really think he can take much chemo.  He doesn't want chemo either.   We are then left with  1) radiation  2) alternative/dietary treatment 3) potentially nanoknife or all 3 above.

I started exploring alternative treatements and ... frankly ... was overwhelmed with information.    After reading various books, blogs, and websites,  I'm having a hard time sieving out what works vs what doesn't.

Things I've heard commonly mentioned so far include things like Budwig diet (with or without Trican), wheat grass juice, bitter melon juice, Salvestrols, ...   don't know if any of these work well against pancreatic cancer.

I figure we don't have much time.  If folks who had personally tried stuff (either family member or themselves) can post their experience on what worked and what didn't for pancreatic cancer, it'll help us tremendously.   Thanks a ton!!

PS. I posted this question in both "Alternative Treatment" and "Pancreatic Cancer" section.  Please excuse the redundency; figure I'll get more hits that way.

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by jesichashope on Fri Oct 11, 2013 02:24 AM

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There a few things that you could look into.

He might do well with curcumin 95% with piperine; it has to the correct - no tumeric - and at therpeutic doses.

You could look into APEX. You can look at this on the net. The  amount you would have to ask.

You could look into using BX Antitoxin also. You can find this on the internet as well look up bxhope it has a video as well.

All these would not give him side effects. At his age he cannot avoid to lose any energy and become weak.

I would look up and get him some BioSuper Food or Moringa; these are great potent natural whole food supplements so you know he is getting all his necessary nutrients in one easy dose. The BioSuper Food has one that is designed for those with cancer, because those with cancer need more nutrients.

Message me if you need more info. There is not enough room here to put up all the details. Hope this helps him. God Bless.

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by daus334 on Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:09 AM

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Dear Ryliu_us,

Healthy diet and lifestyle are essential for any cancer treatment. This is because they support the immunity that is very important in fighting cancer. I would typically prefer natural products rather than some supplements or extracts (e.g., tumeric as opposed to curcumin, or apricot kennels as opposed to B17, etc.). Juices that you mentioned should be good. However, I would personally be cautious about some kind of extreme diets. Though some of them might potentially help, there is typically no real evidence that they do, and any extreme has a potential to harm (particularly a weakened body with a serious disease).

I am not trying to suggest that all the available supplements are questionable. Some of them might be quite good – for example, I have repeatedly heard that salvestrols are something that you might look into (though I have never used them myself).

At the same time, I would suggest that a number of current alternative treatment techniques using some sort of ‘quantum healing’, dispersing of ‘negative energy’ or 'energy manipulations' (whatever this means …), or some kind of God’s particle (which some attempt to link to the Higgs boson), etc. are no different to shooing ‘evil spirits’ by the Stone Age shamans. They have absolutely no sensible scientific meaning and are based on the pseudo-scientific terminology to attract people who are not familiar with physics.

Saying this, I am not suggesting that these techniques cannot produce a positive effect, for example, in cancer sufferers. Surprisingly, they can. However, this is not because these techniques are actually effective, but because some people may believe (consciously or sub-consciously) that they are effective. In this case, the psychological (sub-conscious) expectations of a positive treatment effect may stimulate the immune system to fight your disease more effectively to actually produce the expected treatment effect, thus causing real changes in your body and real physiological improvement.

You can read more about this on this webpage:

http://centre-pst.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=

This is why, when clinical scientists conduct drug trials, they typically have to use a placebo group, which is a group of trial participants who receive an empty ‘sugar’ pill instead of the real treatment. Only the comparison of the outcomes in the treatment group to the outcomes in the placebo group can give you the correct information about the efficiency of the drug. 

On the other hand, it does not really matter why and how you get good treatment outcomes. Therefore, if you feel that some alternative treatment technique or supplement gives the desired outcome, then do not worry about whether it is scientifically proven or not - just get the outcome! If a 'sugar' pill gives a relief, then go for it (who cares that it does not actually work?)!

All the best.

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by formama on Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:26 AM

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On Oct 11, 2013 2:24 AM jesichashope wrote:

There a few things that you could look into.

He might do well with curcumin 95% with piperine; it has to the correct - no tumeric - and at therpeutic doses.

You could look into APEX. You can look at this on the net. The  amount you would have to ask.

You could look into using BX Antitoxin also. You can find this on the internet as well look up bxhope it has a video as well.

All these would not give him side effects. At his age he cannot avoid to lose any energy and become weak.

I would look up and get him some BioSuper Food or Moringa; these are great potent natural whole food supplements so you know he is getting all his necessary nutrients in one easy dose. The BioSuper Food has one that is designed for those with cancer, because those with cancer need more nutrients.

Message me if you need more info. There is not enough room here to put up all the details. Hope this helps him. God Bless.

Do you have any details about the type and dose of the curcumin? 

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by jesichashope on Fri Nov 15, 2013 05:23 AM

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Yes, please message me with an email and I can get you some paper work from some doctors using it to you.

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RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by rjcrossley on Fri Nov 15, 2013 09:24 AM

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On Oct 10, 2013 8:57 PM ryliu_us wrote:

I was wondering if anyone had positive experience with any specific alternative treatment or dietary supplement,  particularly one that worked well against pancreatic cancer?

A couple weeks ago, my 88 year old dad was diagnosed with stage 3 inoperable pancreatic cancer (adenocarcinoma), with a tumor wrapped around ciliac artery.   We talked to our oncologist and got a second opinion at Stanford.   The treatment options offered were either chemo only (gemzar + abraxin) or chemo plus radiation(Xeloda + Radiation).

Although my dad is relatively healthy, at his age, we don't really think he can take much chemo.  He doesn't want chemo either.   We are then left with  1) radiation  2) alternative/dietary treatment 3) potentially nanoknife or all 3 above.

I started exploring alternative treatements and ... frankly ... was overwhelmed with information.    After reading various books, blogs, and websites,  I'm having a hard time sieving out what works vs what doesn't.

Things I've heard commonly mentioned so far include things like Budwig diet (with or without Trican), wheat grass juice, bitter melon juice, Salvestrols, ...   don't know if any of these work well against pancreatic cancer.

I figure we don't have much time.  If folks who had personally tried stuff (either family member or themselves) can post their experience on what worked and what didn't for pancreatic cancer, it'll help us tremendously.   Thanks a ton!!

PS. I posted this question in both "Alternative Treatment" and "Pancreatic Cancer" section.  Please excuse the redundency; figure I'll get more hits that way.

Hi ryliu I know what you mean there a lot of alternative information out there. And  except for what Im on now I have tryed  most of them.  But with limited success.  In 2007 I found out I have stage 4 (adenocarcinoma) prostate cancer It was in my lower back my ribs and in my lower jaw I was written off in 2007.  But as I said over the years since then.  I try a lot of things.  But I found the best combination was  Apricot pits and encapsulated vitamin C these two have help me get my cancer under control I don't know what Damage the pancreatic cancer has done to him. in side.  But I knoe these two work this has help me get my life back again. from night with out sleep to waking up feeling in no pain and feeling  rested if you want to know more let me know

God bless you and your dad

 Ray     

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by sp1967 on Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:44 AM

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How many apricot pits did you take daily and for how long?

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by jcharth on Fri Nov 15, 2013 09:40 PM

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My mother is taking the appricot kernels and I eat them too. You can get bags of them on ebay or amazon. They even sell capsules in amazon.  Some people start with small amounts. The reviews from the capsules in amazon are good. I eat them on salads. I dont have cancer but I was curious. My mother has stage 4 lung cancer. I think some people eventually get to 20 a day but 12 is ok too. I prefer the kernels my mother prefers the capsules. She has turn almost vegan. She stoped chemo and radiation. She looks fine other than for the tumors. We are doing pretty much what the guys from the UK did. If you google UK man cure cancer barley apricots, you will find his system.  Exercise and alkaline diet are really important. Also juicing with a good juicer like the omega  vtr350 or 600x series. My mother is also taking omega 3 and vitamin C as (ascorbic acid).

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by sp1967 on Sat Nov 16, 2013 03:59 AM

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On Nov 15, 2013 9:40 PM jcharth wrote:

My mother is taking the appricot kernels and I eat them too. You can get bags of them on ebay or amazon. They even sell capsules in amazon.  Some people start with small amounts. The reviews from the capsules in amazon are good. I eat them on salads. I dont have cancer but I was curious. My mother has stage 4 lung cancer. I think some people eventually get to 20 a day but 12 is ok too. I prefer the kernels my mother prefers the capsules. She has turn almost vegan. She stoped chemo and radiation. She looks fine other than for the tumors. We are doing pretty much what the guys from the UK did. If you google UK man cure cancer barley apricots, you will find his system.  Exercise and alkaline diet are really important. Also juicing with a good juicer like the omega  vtr350 or 600x series. My mother is also taking omega 3 and vitamin C as (ascorbic acid).

To jcharth, Thank you for your response. My sister has stage 4 bowel cancer. She had chemo and it's come back. Had 2nd operation. At this stage we decided to postpone chemo for the second time as it destroys your immune system. At the moment we are seeing a traditional Chinese medicine doctor who is providing her with natural herbs to boost her immune system. He further suggested to take apricot kernels starting with 5 three times a day for the first week and now she is up to 10 three times a day. We were concerned this might be too much, but we were assured it was safe as others were taking much more. He further advised to eat a whole papaya everyday as well as two kiwi fruit and also sweet potato. We also saw the uk man who cured himself. My sister has also gone vegan, juicing everyday and trying to keep her body in an alkaline state which is very hard to do. Adding vital greens to her juicing have made a difference. What is your mum's cea markers been?

RE: Any alternative treatment that worked for Pancreatic Cancer?

by ryliu_us on Sat Nov 16, 2013 09:24 AM

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On Nov 15, 2013 9:24 AM rjcrossley wrote:

On Oct 10, 2013 8:57 PM ryliu_us wrote:

I was wondering if anyone had positive experience with any specific alternative treatment or dietary supplement,  particularly one that worked well against pancreatic cancer?

A couple weeks ago, my 88 year old dad was diagnosed with stage 3 inoperable pancreatic cancer (adenocarcinoma), with a tumor wrapped around ciliac artery.   We talked to our oncologist and got a second opinion at Stanford.   The treatment options offered were either chemo only (gemzar + abraxin) or chemo plus radiation(Xeloda + Radiation).

Although my dad is relatively healthy, at his age, we don't really think he can take much chemo.  He doesn't want chemo either.   We are then left with  1) radiation  2) alternative/dietary treatment 3) potentially nanoknife or all 3 above.

I started exploring alternative treatements and ... frankly ... was overwhelmed with information.    After reading various books, blogs, and websites,  I'm having a hard time sieving out what works vs what doesn't.

Things I've heard commonly mentioned so far include things like Budwig diet (with or without Trican), wheat grass juice, bitter melon juice, Salvestrols, ...   don't know if any of these work well against pancreatic cancer.

I figure we don't have much time.  If folks who had personally tried stuff (either family member or themselves) can post their experience on what worked and what didn't for pancreatic cancer, it'll help us tremendously.   Thanks a ton!!

PS. I posted this question in both "Alternative Treatment" and "Pancreatic Cancer" section.  Please excuse the redundency; figure I'll get more hits that way.

Hi ryliu I know what you mean there a lot of alternative information out there. And  except for what Im on now I have tryed  most of them.  But with limited success.  In 2007 I found out I have stage 4 (adenocarcinoma) prostate cancer It was in my lower back my ribs and in my lower jaw I was written off in 2007.  But as I said over the years since then.  I try a lot of things.  But I found the best combination was  Apricot pits and encapsulated vitamin C these two have help me get my cancer under control I don't know what Damage the pancreatic cancer has done to him. in side.  But I knoe these two work this has help me get my life back again. from night with out sleep to waking up feeling in no pain and feeling  rested if you want to know more let me know

God bless you and your dad

 Ray     

Ray, thanks a lot for that info. What is the daily dosage of aprocat pits and vitamin C.  If you have specific brand you are using, please let me know.  

I have a hard time getting my dad to take the apricot pits, so I give him a couple D17 pills instead.

Right now, I have my dad on 4 or 5 things at the same time (cellect, budwig, barley/wheat juice extract, pancreatic enzymes, and a little bit of D17).  He seemed to have stablized and pain has not be increasing anymore, but we have not been on it for long,  so it's hard for me to tell for sure.

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