Frustrated

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RE: Frustrated

by neuman on Wed Jan 08, 2014 01:56 AM

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On Jan 06, 2014 3:07 PM Shereeclint wrote:

My dear Neuman,

I saw your response long before dawn this morning as I walked the dogs. Your parting question, "Tell me Clint, what can I do for my husband to help me mentally", frankly made me uneasy. So I walked along praying for an answer. Two words came to me. "BE GRATEFUL".  

Do you recall the story of Ruth? It also came into my mind. Although the story is ultimately about redemption, it doesn't start out that way. As the story goes, there was a famine in the land of the Israelites, so Elimelech decided to relocate into pagan lands with his wife Naomi. Naomi, which is translated as "sweet one, or pleasant one", subsequently had two (2) sons who married pagan women. So far, so good. She had much to be grateful for and life was good.

Does this sound anything like your life before cancer struck? Okay, back to the story. Then, in fairly short order, as the story goes, her husband and both sons DIED. So far, not so good. In fact she was in very dire straits, with starvation a distinct possibiilty. Being a widow in a foriegn country was disasterous. Did she maintain her gratefulness towards GOD throughout this ordeal?, the story would leave you to think no. Why? Because when she decided to go back to her people, vs. dying in a foreign land, she did something very telling. She changed her name to Mara, which means "bitter old woman".

You are not Mara, however I am being led to tell you something I also am being led to do everyday. "BE GRATEFUL" and go to GOD in prayer to thank him for whatever you feel compelled to say. It's easy to feel gratitude when all is good. What you are dealing with is anything but good. "BE GRATEFUL", that is my answer to your question.

GOD Bless you and Chuck,

Clint                

   

Clint, I had a conversation with a nun friend of mine who told me that I need to accept God's Will with grace, and if I am to be honest, I am struggling a bit with that.  Yes, because I want His Will to be that of curing my Chuck.  She said I had to make God's Will MY will!  So much easier said than done, but I will strive to be a better Christian as I know what I am to do and what is expected of me.  Today we found out that the Votrient is not working after 2 LONG months of torture for my Chuck.  We also found out that it has spread to his knee and possibly his pelvis, yet for some strange reason I'm at peace.  Yes, I'm sad, but it could be that I cried so much yesterday that I'm all dried up!

RE: Frustrated

by neuman on Wed Jan 08, 2014 02:00 AM

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On Jan 07, 2014 4:14 AM Patricia58 wrote:

Hi,  Roy first started out on 800mg of Votrient but one of the side effects is high blood pressure. He  had to go on  blood pressure  medication to bring his blood pressure down as it was dangerously high. His votrient was also cut back to alternate 400mg one day,  and 800mg the next.  The blood pressure is still high but not in the danger level.  He is also  very fatigued.  The first scan he had after 3 months on votrient showed  some shrinkage which gave us hope, but the next 2  3 monthly scans showed  slow growth.  Two months ago some  cancer cells had got into his sternum  so he had radium and this  killed those cells off.  The growth he has in his lung is in the lining of his lungs and  the growth has now caused  fluid to buld up in his lung. Roy had to have his  his lung drained of 2 litres of fluid about a month ago and has never been the same since.  He cannot have surgery due to the location of  the growth.  He canot take part in any clincial trials as he  has had more that one cancer.  There may be another  chemo frug he can try but the Australian Government hasn't  approved it.  If we go down this track it will cost  $3,500 each month to get it.    It is hard to believe but Roy only found  he had  3 cancers   when he had his annual PSA blood test.  He wasn't even sick.

That is unbelievable that he had no systems!!  Plus not only do they fight the worst better of their lives, they also have to deal with all the bureaucracy of the government/health insurance!!!  God be with us!

RE: Frustrated

by Shereeclint on Wed Jan 08, 2014 03:06 PM

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My dear Neuman,

The news continues to appear decidedly negative, for that I am truly sorry. Regarding the conversation with your friend, it would have me struggling as well. Mention the idea of submitting to GOD's Will and the secular world jumps all over it with great delight. I can already feel the skeptics jumping all over that nun, and now me, as I speak on the same subject.

As you recall, it was Jesus who taught us to pray for "GOD's Will to be done". This is the same Jesus who repeatedly said that "He and the Father are one", and the same Jesus who suffered a horrendous death for refusing to back off from His claim of divinity. Today, the word "excruciating" comes directly from a feeble attempt by the Greeks to adequately describe the horrors of crucificion.

Anyone who does GOD's Will is blameless (without sin). The wages (or result of sin) is death. Jesus did His Fathers (GOD) Will His entire life and still died. Or did He? The fact is the Jesus conquered death, which was GOD's Will, so that we could do likewise through Him.

I hear a lot of talk on this site about "beating cancer". To that I say, great, then what? Is it so that one can go back to their old ways? Death may be postponed, however it will still be lurking, waiting for another time and place to strike. That is not the "Will of GOD". Or is it to "repent", as Jesus told us to do from the very first time He spoke. To repent, as Jesus used the term, meant "To change the way we think and act".  The "Will of GOD", as Jesus taught us, is for each of us to seek Him first and foremost throughout our lives (something I have failed to do), love each other as we love ourselves, and to "BEAT DEATH".

Now let me get personal. It is not GOD's Will for your Chuck to die of cancer. Jesus did not suffer an "excruciating" death so that Chuck would die several thousand years later of cancer. That argument is simply ludicrous. Rather, Jesus promised us something that only He could deliver, by His death. "Believe in Me and you will not perish, but have everlasting LIFE". He fullfilled GOD's Will so that we could "BEAT DEATH".

Will my words stop the tears? No. Will my words change the outcome for Chuck? No. Will my words bring a hint of peace to you and Chuck? Maybe. Will my words move others to seek GOD's Will? I pray they do.

Clint

P.S. I believe that these words came from the HOLY SPIRIT; may all the glory go to GOD.

              

 

RE: Frustrated

by mydaughtertina on Wed Jan 08, 2014 04:06 PM

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PhyllisA,

We all hate cancer, it takes the love of our lives from us, children, husband, wives. It makes us mentally as ill as the one we love and care for. Such sadness and sorrow comes with this horrible disease. I will never in my life understand why my daughter, as you all wonder 'why' with your loved one. So unfair, so devastating and terrible. Wish you all well, we are all going and have been through it, I am 8 months later, after the loss of my daughter Tina, still in shock, still cry constantly and know in my heart that it will be this way for me until I die. No matter what anyone says, life will never be the same for me again, the loss will never lessen. Love, Brenda

RE: Frustrated

by neuman on Thu Jan 09, 2014 04:19 AM

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On Jan 08, 2014 3:06 PM Shereeclint wrote:

My dear Neuman,

The news continues to appear decidedly negative, for that I am truly sorry. Regarding the conversation with your friend, it would have me struggling as well. Mention the idea of submitting to GOD's Will and the secular world jumps all over it with great delight. I can already feel the skeptics jumping all over that nun, and now me, as I speak on the same subject.

As you recall, it was Jesus who taught us to pray for "GOD's Will to be done". This is the same Jesus who repeatedly said that "He and the Father are one", and the same Jesus who suffered a horrendous death for refusing to back off from His claim of divinity. Today, the word "excruciating" comes directly from a feeble attempt by the Greeks to adequately describe the horrors of crucificion.

Anyone who does GOD's Will is blameless (without sin). The wages (or result of sin) is death. Jesus did His Fathers (GOD) Will His entire life and still died. Or did He? The fact is the Jesus conquered death, which was GOD's Will, so that we could do likewise through Him.

I hear a lot of talk on this site about "beating cancer". To that I say, great, then what? Is it so that one can go back to their old ways? Death may be postponed, however it will still be lurking, waiting for another time and place to strike. That is not the "Will of GOD". Or is it to "repent", as Jesus told us to do from the very first time He spoke. To repent, as Jesus used the term, meant "To change the way we think and act".  The "Will of GOD", as Jesus taught us, is for each of us to seek Him first and foremost throughout our lives (something I have failed to do), love each other as we love ourselves, and to "BEAT DEATH".

Now let me get personal. It is not GOD's Will for your Chuck to die of cancer. Jesus did not suffer an "excruciating" death so that Chuck would die several thousand years later of cancer. That argument is simply ludicrous. Rather, Jesus promised us something that only He could deliver, by His death. "Believe in Me and you will not perish, but have everlasting LIFE". He fullfilled GOD's Will so that we could "BEAT DEATH".

Will my words stop the tears? No. Will my words change the outcome for Chuck? No. Will my words bring a hint of peace to you and Chuck? Maybe. Will my words move others to seek GOD's Will? I pray they do.

Clint

P.S. I believe that these words came from the HOLY SPIRIT; may all the glory go to GOD.

              

 

AMEN Clint....AMEN!!  I believe that God speaks to us through others and I believe you are one of them :)

God bless you abundately!!

RE: Frustrated

by PhyllisA on Thu Jan 09, 2014 06:29 PM

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I am sorry to hear about your daughter. And, yes, cancer tears and rips at the hearts of the survivors. That's why I hate it so much. It is unfair and devestating.

RE: Frustrated

by Shereeclint on Thu Jan 09, 2014 07:37 PM

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On Jan 08, 2014 4:06 PM mydaughtertina wrote:

PhyllisA,

We all hate cancer, it takes the love of our lives from us, children, husband, wives. It makes us mentally as ill as the one we love and care for. Such sadness and sorrow comes with this horrible disease. I will never in my life understand why my daughter, as you all wonder 'why' with your loved one. So unfair, so devastating and terrible. Wish you all well, we are all going and have been through it, I am 8 months later, after the loss of my daughter Tina, still in shock, still cry constantly and know in my heart that it will be this way for me until I die. No matter what anyone says, life will never be the same for me again, the loss will never lessen. Love, Brenda

Hi Brenda,

When I saw this post, I was instantly taken with the pain that comes screaming off the page. Since I have never lost a child I am not qualified nor will I attempt to offer any words of wisdom. Nevertheless, I took the liberty to go back and read past messages to try and acquaint myself with your story. Why? I really do not know. If there is nothing to say, what's the point.

Well, that changed when I saw the mention of the book by Dr. Eben Alexander. I, too, have read that book. My motivation stemed from a near death experience I had over 35 years ago. Here is a short synopsis of my NDE story.

 While I was still in the Army, I evidently passed out while standing approximately 10' above a concrete floor. I also evidently landed squarely on my head. I was told that it sounded like a bomb went off. When I was rolled onto my back there was no sign of life. The force of the fall, I was later told by a neurologist, was enough to crack a human head wide open. I was DEAD.

I felt none of what I just described. I was conscious of my being, however I was floating freely in what appeared to be a long tunnel. In the far distance was a warm light beckoning me forward. Then I began moving in that direction, however the next part is why I am writing this to you. At the same time, I felt an overwelming sense of being LOVED, with an intensity I had never before nor since experienced. This LOVE permeated every part of my being, and it was truly indescribable. It was unconditional, meaning that I was being LOVED, not because I was a "good" guy, but inspite of it. I thought I was a "good" person, however this LOVE was way too wonderful for just that. It was complete, meaning that nothing was missing. And most important, it was eternal; I knew that it would never leave, only grow in it's intensity. Then, in a flash, I was back in my body.

Since then, I have sought out and read numerous accounts concerning NDE's. If you liked Dr. Alexander's book, I highly recommend "Nine Days in Heaven, The story of Marietta Davis" by Dennis and Nolene Prince. Whereas Dr. Alexander's experience was, for me, fairly vague, Marietta Davis' story is highly detailed. Heaven is definitely REAL, and unfortunately, so is the place of eternal separation from GOD. This book takes the reader on an indepth journey, whereas I was blessed with just a brief encounter. And, as if that was not enough, you will be introduced to what happens to still borns, aborted babies, and children who die very young. While your beloved Tina was not young enough to fall into any of those categories, I am confident that you will find comfort that GOD, in His infinite glory, has provisions for ALL His children, if we chose to believe.

I pray GOD's Blessing on you in this time of great sorrow.

Clint                

RE: Frustrated

by amorris on Thu Jan 09, 2014 08:12 PM

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Beautifully desribed,, Ihave said many many times to our pastor The power of God is something everyone needs to be touched by   I don't know how those that don't have God in there life deal with cancer on a day to day bases when many of us have been told the type of cancer you have is terminal an sometimes in a very short time Thank you for sharing that on Caneer Compass. Audrey Morri

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