frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

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RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Dlynn1210 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 03:20 AM

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You should never ingest anything without talking to your oncologist first.  At the very least you may lessen the effect of meds vitally important to treatment and you could possibly cause adverse effects. 

I lost my husband to cancer 18 years ago and I was diagnosed with cancer 8 1/2 years ago.  The one constant has been people who claim to have cure alls for cancer.  Anyone diagnosed with cancer or anyone who has a loved one diagnosed with cancer needs encouragement.  What they do not need is false hope.  If there were a cure all, why are doctors, nurses, scientist, and other medical professionals dying from this horrible disease. 

I had a statistics teacher that gave us some wonderful advise.  Always look to see what claim is being made to see how facts can be skewed or even ignored if they disagree with what they are trying to prove.  I went online to check out the documentary mentioned.  I know that just because one was filmed doesn't mean they are reporting the truth or all the facts.  I quickly came up with this -

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-truth-about-cancer-

Diana

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Dlynn1210 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 03:57 AM

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Hi Clint -

Thank you for the kind words.  As always, your words are comforting to so many. 

Eight years post treatment I am having some serious swallowing issues that are being hindered by lack of knowledge of ENTs in Florida.  I was hospitalized on my birthday, Dec 10, and diagnosed with a subdural hemotoma (brain bleed) of unknown origin.  I spent 6 days in the hospital before telling them I want out because I was going back to IL for treatment.  I just located a otolaryngologist who may have some knowledge of head and neck cancer patients.  I have an appt on Friday - if this doesn't work out I will be flying back to IL the following week to see my doctor there.  I found in FL that ENTs do not do dilations - it is gastrologists who know nothing about head and neck cancers.  Then I just discovered there are two types of dilations - and the gastrologist that I saw admitted he wasn't trained in the type that has proven successful for me in the past. 

I am slowly gaining back my strength but at the end of the day, I run out of steam which is where I am now.  Hope I am making sense. 

I am going to post about the dilations tomorrow because it is important for survivors to understand the difference - especially for those living in FL.

Diana

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by shipl on Mon Jan 04, 2016 04:52 AM

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Hi diana,

I am sorry for your loss & suffering over the past years & hope you are feeling much better tomorrow & I will read with interest your next post.

I'm sorry but I don't agree that alternate programs give false hope. I know a number of sufferers of various types of cancers who haved lived far longer than doctors predicted, some only in remission , some totally cured using alternate programs.

In relation to prostate cancer, my research & discussions have shown the operation &/or treatment is not as sussessful as doctors would have us believe & the after effects, pain & suffering is worse than the success one can achieve with some alternate programs  

The main point in this is one size does not fit all.

My post "Alternate programs can work" Jan 3rd tells my story which you can trace back to November 2014.

However I am still very interested & open to any information on various natural products, suppliments & treatments, whether it is positive or negative.

I have tried to go onto the website link you quoted to no avail so I Googled found 7 different sciencebasedmediine.org .... webstes all come up, Website unavailable "site uses an unsupporte protocol" as the reason. Do you have another way in or another link?

Take care. Cheers Charlie

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Dlynn1210 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:23 AM

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Hello Charlie -

I apologize if you got the wrong impression as I have not been suffering over the past years.  I had radiation and chemo 8 1/2 years ago and have been clear of cancer the past 8 years as a result.  Every cancer is different so one cannot expect someone with a different type of cancer to understand but those of us with head and neck (tonsil) cancer understand that we have swallowing issues that arise through the years post treatment which is generally rectified with esophageal dilations.  I have had two previous dilations with huge success while living in IL.  Other than having increasing swallowing problems this past year my health has been excellent.  I was back with my team (So. Baptist Disaster Relief) when they were deployed to Texas within 1 1/2 yrs post treatment.  I have been on numerous mission trips to Pennsylvania (2x), St. Lucia (so many times I've lost count), Bolivia (1x), Haiti (2x), and Jamaica (1x - looking forward to a second trip this summer). 

Alternative programs have proven to be a great additive to conventional treatments but I have only known of one, Vitamin C injectable, that showed some success at maintaining (NOT CURING) cancer for someone here on CC.  I know of no one who was cured with alternative treatments and I stand by my statement that IF alternatives were a cure we wouldn't see medical professionals or scientists dying from cancer.  Steve Jobs tried alternative treatment and by the time he realized it wasn't working, it was too late.  His attempt at finding an alternative treatment that would work cost him his life.  Sad!

My father was diagnosed with prostate cancer when he was 62.  He had surgery to remove the small tumors and his cancer was gone - no radiation or chemo was needed.  He was cured of cancer and never mentioned any pain or after effects.  He lived to be 83 at which time he passed away from a heart condition.  I have read on CC through my 8 1/2 yrs here that prostate cancer is a very slow growing cancer and some older men have been advised not to treat it.    Prostate cancer is VERY different from brain cancer that this documentary claims to have been cured with frankincense.  While one size does not fit all when it comes to clothing, that is not true with cancer.  Tried and true conventional cancer treatments are saving many lives but the key is catching them early.  Various alternative treatments are lessening side effects of conventional treatments.  I had Reike and accupuncture at CTCA that helped tremendously with nausea from chemo.    

I don't understand why you are having a problem accessing the link I posted or why you are having trouble finding the article on your own.  I clicked on the link in my above post after reading that you were having a problem and it took me right to the article.  I originally found it by going to google and typing in the name of the documentary.  It took me about two minutes of searching to come with the site. 

No one should ever advise someone who is undergoing conventional treatment to use any alternative without checking with their oncologist.  No one should share false information about alternatives because you could cost a person their life if they forgo conventional treatment for an alternative thinking it will cure their cancer.  I came to Cancer Compass for personal knowledge of a treatment as do others. 

Diana      

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Dlynn1210 on Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:32 AM

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Charlie

I just noticed you must have typed in the website rather than clicking on my link.  You typed it in as siencebasedmedLINE.org rather than sciencebasedmedicine.org .  When I typed that in, it went right to their site.  When you have a .org website, it is an authentic website you can rely on. 

sciencebasedmedicine.org /    " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org /    

sciencebasedmedicine.org /about-science-based-medicine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org /about-science-based-med

Quote from their site:

Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine

Science-Based Medicine is dedicated to evaluating medical treatments and products of interest to the public in a scientific light, and promoting the highest standards and traditions of science in health care. Online information about alternative medicine is overwhelmingly credulous and uncritical, and even mainstream media and some medical schools have bought into the hype and failed to ask the hard questions.

We provide a much needed “alternative” perspective — the scientific perspective.

Diana

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Shereeclint on Wed Jan 06, 2016 08:56 PM

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On Jan 04, 2016 3:57 AM Dlynn1210 wrote:

Hi Clint -

Thank you for the kind words.  As always, your words are comforting to so many. 

Eight years post treatment I am having some serious swallowing issues that are being hindered by lack of knowledge of ENTs in Florida.  I was hospitalized on my birthday, Dec 10, and diagnosed with a subdural hemotoma (brain bleed) of unknown origin.  I spent 6 days in the hospital before telling them I want out because I was going back to IL for treatment.  I just located a otolaryngologist who may have some knowledge of head and neck cancer patients.  I have an appt on Friday - if this doesn't work out I will be flying back to IL the following week to see my doctor there.  I found in FL that ENTs do not do dilations - it is gastrologists who know nothing about head and neck cancers.  Then I just discovered there are two types of dilations - and the gastrologist that I saw admitted he wasn't trained in the type that has proven successful for me in the past. 

I am slowly gaining back my strength but at the end of the day, I run out of steam which is where I am now.  Hope I am making sense. 

I am going to post about the dilations tomorrow because it is important for survivors to understand the difference - especially for those living in FL.

Diana

Hi Diana,

A December baby are you? On the 27th of December I became SS eligible, albeit at the early end. Where did the time go?

I continue to follow your every post. I also continue to be an avid admirer of your spirit and soul. When we finally meet someday, either here or there, I will recognize you, this I know. How, you ask? Your spirit will give you away, that’s how.

A brain bleed on top of a severe swallowing episode hit me like a sledgehammer. But you probably thought it might. You and Susan walked me through a dark valley when my brother was diagnosed in 2013. That is not a misprint, it was the fall of 2013. As I said before, where did the time go?

Stan is having his share of post treatment problems as well, the primary one being the inability to gain weight. Food still tastes awful, so he counts calories. UGHH!!!

I was taken by the words on one of your posts when you told of being present when your Mom took her final breath. That was a sacred moment, orchestrated from above.

I too was graced by GOD with a sacred moment when my Dad passed last year. The wonderful hospice nurse promised me that she could give me 20 to 30 minutes time to be present when my Dad breathed his last.

When I got the call I was there in 10. It was too late. Later she apologized profusely. She then proceeded to tell me something which she had never experienced in over 20 years on the job.

When my Dad’s breathing changed she picked up the phone, his first slowed breath. When I told her I was on the way, he took his second breath. And then as she hung up the phone he breathed his last.  She said it was the most serene and peaceful passing she had ever witnessed. What happened?

Well, I knew. For the past several days I had been whispering over and over again to my Dad the following; “Dad, when Jesus comes a calling, please go with Him. Everything is in order. Everything has been said. We are happy for you and want you to go with Him. Go and enjoy your eternity.”

I smile whenever I recall that day.

I have been thinking what to say to you and could only come up with “I am so sorry.” So, I have been praying for the right words, and for your well-being.

This morning the words came to me, or I should say, I read them and immediately thought of you. So here goes.

 

“Have compassion on me, Lord, for I am weak.

Heal me, Lord, for my body is in agony.

I am sick at heart.

How long, O Lord, until you restore me?” Psalm 6:2-3

 

David was far more elegant and his prayer far more poignant than anything I might have conjured up. I know you agree.

I will continue to pray, for GOD wants to know that we value Him in our low spots.

GOD bless you.

Clint

 

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Voiceofreason on Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:29 PM

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Well spoken Diana.  I do not like to bash others but it is in times of vulnerability that people are taken advantage of with dubious treatments with purely anecdotal evidence.  The problem with this is all it takes is one person to say it cured them and it becomes fact, even though the process is much more complex than this.

Did you know that alt-med treatments along with conventional treatments are highly effective?  Did you also know that conventional treatments without alt-med treatments are just as effective?  And no for the obvious...alt-med treatments, on their own, are 0% effective.  There has never been an alt-med cure for cancer but there sure is a lot of misinformation and pseudologic being thrown around to cloud the actual evidence.

I wish everyone has the best possible chance to fight their disease without others taking advantage of their situation.

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Dlynn1210 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 01:09 PM

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Hi Clint -

We are both December babies only I'm a little ahead of you.  We recently had our 50th high school reunion - amazing where the time went.  It doesn't seen like it has been two plus years since Stan's diagnsois and we first met here. 

When they diagnosed me with the brain bleed it was a shock because I was actually feeling better (and a little guilty for bothering everyone) after a few hours in the ER.  I asked when I could go home and told I couldn't!  Things kind of progressed from there.  I was sent to nuero ICU and visited by a neurosurgeon's PA who let me know that they would be taking a second CT scan 12 hours after the initial scan.  If the bleed continued to grow, they would be "going in" the next morning. 

Next was a visit from the resident doctor who among other things asked me if it should come to it, did I want CPR or DNR.  My only thoughts at that point were my birthday could be my last day here - and I should have updated one section of my Will to clarify something regarding Nicey - something I had been intending to do for weeks. A reminder to self - IF I was headed into surgery, make sure I wrote down the clarification and had witnesses sign it before surgery.  I know you and I are believers in that God has a time for us - and are ready when that time here comes to an end. 

We all have our share of after effects post treatment and some have more problems than others.  Radiation is the "gift" that keeps on giving. I have always relied on my doctors in IL to see me through so trying to find one in FL help with my swallowing has been a challenge.

My appointment yesterday was truly an answer to many prayers.  I finally had an ENT who asked questions that indicated he gets it - what a cancer patient goes through post treatment.  After we talked for some time (he actually listened), he asked if I saw immediate improvement after the rigid esophagoscopy done by my ENT in IL.  I told him YES definitely!  I was totally shocked when he said "Okay, let's do it"!  I asked him "The rigid?  You do them?"  His response - Yes!  I do surgeries on Wednesdays and Fridays.  My assistant will call to schedule it."  He said that he was too late to help with the cancer but maybe he could help with my swallowing.  Now I am trying to figure out how/why another ENT in the same group (a different location) would tell me that ENTs do not do dilations in FL.  Apparently there are some that do them.  This is an example of why it is so important to get second opinions or even more if needed to get an answer that makes sense.  As a close friend said yesterday after my appointment, if I had listened to the doctors in the hospital, I would be walking around with a feeding tube today and no closer to correcting my swallowing problems. 

My biggest regret was the timing.  We were scheduled to go on a 9 night cruise leaving on Jan 21.  Our first port stop was Haiti where we have gone the last two years to an orphanage and been able to take in over 100 suitcases of food, clothing, and shoes for the children - definitely the highlight of our past cruises.  I had purchased 56 pairs of black leather shoes over the summer - shoes the kids need to attend school and had most already packed.  I volunteer at a thrift store and have access to children's clothing that they gladly donate for the kids.  I had held off getting those due to space needed to store.  I went in once after my release from the hosp but I just didn't have the strength to even go through the clothing. 

God knew and provided once again.  My very dear friend went shopping using $120 in coupons donated by a local charity to purchase kids clothing.  Last year she did the same and had to go to several of their stores before finding enough clothing in sizes needed.  This year she went to the one closest to her house and found an entire wall of children's clothing.  She wound up with two carts of clothes and went to another aisle less traveled to go through and see how much she had coupons for.  A woman walking by stopped and asked her what she was doing (curious w/ two carts).  Martha told her - the woman proceeded to tell her that she had no intention of coming in that store that day but "something" told her to go in.  She also had no intention of going down that aisle of knick nacks but "something" told her to go down that aisle.  Both agreed it was no coincidence but a God incident.  The woman then asked if she could donate for the children.  Martha said "Well I guess you could buy clothes and we could include them with ours."  The lady then asked her if she could just give her money so that she could buy the clothing.  Martha told her she guessed that would be okay.  The woman pulled out a $100 bill and handed it to her.  Martha said she immediately starting crying because she knew it was God at work.  She later shared this with the cashier who in turn shared it with another employee.  I emailed Jane, the missionary on the ground, telling her about Martha's exerience.  She wrote back that this reaffirmed for her that God still wanted them helping the children.  Jane is back in the U.S. after being diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer - she had a double mastectomy and reconstruction but is going back for two weeks leaving on Jan 12.  I was able to ship three boxes and one suitcase totaling 128.4 lbs to the airline (Missionary Flights International) who will hold them for her.  When she leaves Tues, she will take the items directly to Potters House Orphanage.  She will have to pay shipping and Duane (duty) when she arrives but God had that covered.  Martha had baked Christmas cookies for a neighbor who has been donating a small amount over the last year to the orphanage - which Martha included with her support.  They had visitors from Brazil and the gentleman came across the street to thank her.  Then he tried handing her money.  Martha thought he was trying to pay her for the cookies and kept saying no and shaking her head.  The woman stepped up and translated for him - he wanted the money to go to the orphanage.  When she finally took the money - it was $100.  I told her that her cookies were good but $100?  Between what the neighbor had given her, the $100, and what she was sending, it totaled $155 - which will be used to pay for the items flying to Haiti.  God does provide. 

I had more shoes for the orphanage but even God had a different plan for them.  I had gone to Jamaica on a mission trip three years ago and worked with ACE (American Caribbean Experience).  After one week I was SO impressed with their work (been there 27 years).  I emailed the head of ACE and asked her if she could use the remaining items.  She wrote back and said "Definitely" and if I could get them to Georgia where they live, a pastor would see they got shipped to them or if I could get them there after Jan 5th, that her husband will be in the U.S. and could get them to their storage where they will be held for their next shipment.  A friend is visiting from Georgia and just let me know yesterday that he can take them up to her husband.  God's plans, when we follow His path, always works out!!!  I am never surprised but always in awe of what God can and does do!!!!  Even though I was disappointed when they wouldn't give me the okay to go on the cruise, God had a different plan.  He knew who needed what and provided!

Please do continue to pray that I am able to have the procedure next week and I am soon able to eat more.  Your words of encouragement are always so meaningful.

Diana

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Dlynn1210 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 01:40 PM

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You could say I am not politically correct because my primary concern is advocating for cancer patients rather than worried about stepping on the toes of those who hand them false info/hope.  You have a different view when it is your life on the line.  Do you want a treatment that has been proven to work for hundreds of people over years OR do you want to be a guinea pig for something that has worked for one, two, or maybe three people.  Personally, I wanted the tried and true!

I was treated at CTCA who created and sponsor Cancer Compass.  There were a few reasons why I chose to be treated at CTCA in IL which was 2 1/2 hours from my home while the hospital where I was diagnosed was only 20 min away.  One reason was their all inclusive treatments - alternative along with conventional treatment.  They do not claim that alternatives will cure cancer or prevent it from returning but they do help with side effects.  Accupuncture helped lessen the severe nausea I experienced due to Cisplatin Chemo. 

Diana

 

RE: frankincense can stop cancer spreading,

by Shereeclint on Mon Jan 11, 2016 02:08 AM

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Hi Diana,

Our pastor, Larry Thompson, after 21 years’ service and at 65 years of age, recently announced his retirement from First Baptist Ft. Lauderdale.

Today, the interim pastor made an insightful comment. He said “ As all of you know, we are in an election year. What you may not know is that it doesn’t matter who ends up in the White House; nothing will change until we change in our house, meaning the church."

You know, he is right. Just reading your post drove that home.  The fields are ready, but there are too few willing to work the harvest. Thank you, and your folks, for going out in the field, even when you are suffering, the needs seem endless and you are relentlessly attacked by invisible foe. It is the change he was speaking to. 

I am praying for you. I will continue to pray. To GOD be the glory. May you continue to be covered in His Grace.

Thank you.

Clint 

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