Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

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RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by scootersmom on Wed May 06, 2015 10:37 PM

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Thanks. I did research Perdue. I even spoke to their clinical study coordinator who gave some interesting info. First and foremost she wanted to know if scooters TCC was confirmed by biopsy. She said any and all patients presenting with TCC would have to have their cancer diagnosed by biopsy. I found that interesting. 35 of 500 dogs were misdiagnosed and didn't have TCC. I'm pretty sure we aren't going to do chemo. It just seems too much to put her through especially if it only buys her a few extra months. I'm anxious to see the specialist to see what they say. I probably already know all the info. Thanks for listening. Damn cancer :(

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by scootersmom on Wed May 13, 2015 11:30 PM

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Scooter has her appointment yesterday...the good news is the mass is in the middle of the bladder and has not spread anywhere else.  We are faced with some very tough decisions.  The doctor is recommending chemo mitoxantrone and piroxacam.  Right now Scooter is not showing any symptoms so this would be her best option.  The other option is target therapy with megatronics, very low dose, an oral chemo medicine.  And of course just the piroxicam by itself.

This is so tough...she said a year or two with the chemo, and maybe a year with the piroxicam.  I don't want to do anything that will affect her quality of life.  I want her to be happy for as long as possible.  

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by SassysMama on Fri May 15, 2015 11:23 PM

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I came home to find where my Sassy had blood on her pee pads, she hasn't eaten, this is her 3rd day. I know i'm losing her, she still gets up and greets me but then sleeps until she wants to go outside again. I understand how you feel, i don't want to say it's time, i want her to keep bouncing back like she was over the last 2 weeks. I cried my heart out when i saw the blood today, i held her and she looked into my eyes like she was saying it's gone be ok mommie. I don't know what to do, i prayed so hard that God would just take her and to please not make me take that ride with her. I'm dying inside, this is the most horrible feeling in the world to not know when is the right time. Sassy would be 16 in December, i just knew she would live to be even older because she has always been so healthy, never sick the entire time until now. I'll pray  for you ....... 

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by scootersmom on Sat May 16, 2015 02:40 AM

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On May 15, 2015 11:23 PM SassysMama wrote:

I came home to find where my Sassy had blood on her pee pads, she hasn't eaten, this is her 3rd day. I know i'm losing her, she still gets up and greets me but then sleeps until she wants to go outside again. I understand how you feel, i don't want to say it's time, i want her to keep bouncing back like she was over the last 2 weeks. I cried my heart out when i saw the blood today, i held her and she looked into my eyes like she was saying it's gone be ok mommie. I don't know what to do, i prayed so hard that God would just take her and to please not make me take that ride with her. I'm dying inside, this is the most horrible feeling in the world to not know when is the right time. Sassy would be 16 in December, i just knew she would live to be even older because she has always been so healthy, never sick the entire time until now. I'll pray  for you ....... 

I am soooo sorry you are having to go through this. God is going to take care of her. The hardest part is letting go. I would suggest you talk to your vet and see if it's sassys time. I'm sure seeing the blood is hard. Some dogs bleed for a day or two and bounce back. I would definitely talk to to your vet. You can try feeding her anything she will be willing to eat. My heart is going out to you. You are not alone. Love her and if it's time you will be there for her. Your gift to her is showing she will always be loved.

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by Litasmomma on Mon May 18, 2015 06:56 AM

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Sassysmama, I'm so sorry that you have to go through this but I am happy I can be here for you. Sassy loves you so much and that love only gets stronger after she passes and goes to the Rainbow Bridge. Let her tell you how she is feeling and her eyes and body will guide you into making that tough decision. What a blessing we have to be able to help our beautiful babies cross over and help to take away their pain and suffering. I chose to hold Lita and sing to her as she took her last breath and though extremely painful and heartbreaking at the time it now is a beautiful memory that my son and I will treasure. We didn't let her go alone and she knew she was safe and loved right up until her final breath. I pray that the Lord will carry you both in his hands during these difficult days and flood you with all the love and beautiful memories of a happier and healthier time. Stay strong and brave. Litasmom, Jennifer

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by everley on Fri May 22, 2015 12:46 AM

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On May 15, 2015 11:23 PM SassysMama wrote:

I came home to find where my Sassy had blood on her pee pads, she hasn't eaten, this is her 3rd day. I know i'm losing her, she still gets up and greets me but then sleeps until she wants to go outside again. I understand how you feel, i don't want to say it's time, i want her to keep bouncing back like she was over the last 2 weeks. I cried my heart out when i saw the blood today, i held her and she looked into my eyes like she was saying it's gone be ok mommie. I don't know what to do, i prayed so hard that God would just take her and to please not make me take that ride with her. I'm dying inside, this is the most horrible feeling in the world to not know when is the right time. Sassy would be 16 in December, i just knew she would live to be even older because she has always been so healthy, never sick the entire time until now. I'll pray  for you ....... 

Hi Sassysmomma I'm so sorry you're going thru this. I know just how disheartening it is to see the blood. My Tessa just had blood in her urine and she had since March. I really hope it's not going to last for days again. How long has Sassy been having blood in her urine before she stopped wanting to eat? 

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by mck9785 on Sun Sep 20, 2015 07:55 PM

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This board has been a wealth of information for us. My 10.5 yr old Springer Spaniel, Sarah was diagnosed with TCC back in January. She has been on piroxicam and an antibiotic since then with mixed results. At first, it seemed to work great, but then she appeared to develop an ulcer and we added pepcid. All of that seemed good for a while as well, but in the last few days, she has gotten worse - not eating, but still likes her treats, constipated, peeing freely but without any control (so many accidents), and she seems to be in a little discomfort. Not sure how to know what to do or when to do it. My husband travels alot and my daughter is in college, so I am pretty much dealing with this alone and jsut seeing her look so unhappy is breaking my heart. Don't know if it is time or if this too will pass and she will be herself again.

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by everley on Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:48 PM

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Why do they have her on an antibiotic this long?  There is nothing an antibiotic can do to help this disease. A few weeks ago we learned that Tessa is in the beginning stages of kidney disease. This is being caused by the peroxicam. So now we were faced with discontinuing that med to prevent further kidney issues. She is now on a special dog food to help her kidneys and still taking the peroxicam. As for your pup not wanting to eat there is certainly something wrong but it doesn't mean it's the end. Can you take her in to be seen? I know I'm not a vet but I recommend taking her off the antibiotics and if she had an ulcer she may just be nauseated. We are here for you. Keep us posted.

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by alleykat on Thu Aug 18, 2016 02:12 PM

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i just read through a thread that started from litasmommy and i am now in absolute tears and need to get all of this out now that i see others are able to relate.

i adopted charlie in 2004, they told us he was a healthy six month old cockapoo. after bringing him to the vet they said he was no way six months and at least three or four so i am not really sure how old charlie is but i know he is at least 12.

charlie has always had behavioral issues.. peeing and barking when anyone left the house or when there were rain storms.  but i love him unconditonally as much as he has ruined all of my previous apartments.

starting a couple months ago we have had to diaper him.  he started walking to certain spots and just hovering and letting drops of pee come out.. i had also noticed his stream was not what it used to be when taking him out.  i took him to his vet who knew of his behavioral problems and said it was definitley hormonal so he tested his thyroid and said it was off and started him on thyroid medication.  it did nothing.. the going to his spot become more and more frequent and his somewhat stream was now drops outside too.

he still thought it was hormonal, so we tried hormone therapy with this spray in his nose that was altered to his hormones.  it did nothing, tested for cushings diabetes, NOTHING.

i took him to get groomed about a month ago and when i went to take his diaper off blood dripped out of his little pee pee.  i had to be peeled off the floor when i was told they could not groom him due to the blood.  i called his vet and the vet told me that maybe it was time.  i instantly hung up on him and just sat myself down and held charlie in the middle of petsmart crying. 

he didnt have to be put down, charlie ate, drank, played and ran around.  it was NOT his time.  i asked all of my friends and family for recommondations for vets. i brought him to the most wonderful compasionate woman two weeks ago.  she took another urine sample and we set up an apt for a sonogram. 

well after praying it was stones for 24 hours my hopes were crushed when she called and told me they found a mass on charlies bladder that extended through his urethra that was causing the strain for him to urinate.  there was also a mass on his spleen and signs that his kidneys were going.  now for the last month i said to my husband i thought he was losing weight every time i put a diaper around his little body.. charlie was also down 14 pounds since his last weigh in 3 months ago.  we decided not to do the biopsy because we dont know exactly how old he is and with all the symptoms we said it was safe to say it was cancer.

she kept him on this heavy duty antibiotic and started him on piroxicam and added misoprostol to help prevent any ulcers.

charlie is still eating drinking and playing.  we are adding ground beef to his normal meals just because i know he is losing weight and i love him.  just recently last night the blood started again but worse.  when i took his diaper off last night before walking him it was full of blood and urine.  again this morning and again later this mroning and just now when i walked him he had his first somewhat stream of urine in a very long time .. but of what looked like a lot of blood.

i am still waiting on the vet to call me.. but can someone please tell me i am not wrong in putting him down?!!? everyone is telling me i am making him suffer but i just see so much life in him still the fact that he runs to me when i ask if he wants to go out or jumps on me to get a treat still.  i just cannot see putting down an alert happy dog!  

sorry for the ramble i am just at a complete loss.  

RE: Canine Bladder Cancer Final Stages

by Litasmomma on Thu Aug 18, 2016 04:27 PM

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Hi Alleykat, I haven't been on here in quite a while. I'm glad you reached out for advice since Bladder Cancer is such a horrible disease. I read your post and I can tell you that you should not put your dog to sleep yet, though, unfortunately, at some point you will have to make that decision. I kept my little Lita until I just knew she was ready. Her body was giving up and I could see it. Trust me, you will know when it's time. My little one started yelping when she would pee and then stopped eating. She also would strain a lot to poop and I remember praising God every time she would go to the bathroom. To me that meant another day with her. If your baby is eating and playing and pooping and peeing just enjoy everyday with him. And the blood is deceiving. Lita had clumps and stringy blood that would come and go right up until the end. I miss my little girl and wish she hadn't been taken so soon but I thank God for every day we had together. Her sister misses her, too, and every time I say Lita's name she still looks for her. I'm so sorry you are having to go through this. I'm here if you need an ear to listen. God bless you and your little boy.
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