What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

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RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Cured on Thu Jan 28, 2016 01:33 PM

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I think you didnt read the title of the thread or realise what section of the forum you are on.

Just to remind you this particular thread is concerned with alternative treatments for cancer.

People here are seeking information about alternative medicine.

Now we all know that immunotherapy represents potentially a great leap forward in the treatment of cancer in the mainstream medical community although the stats are still pretty low for repsonse most of which have been done on melanoma patients.

Nonetheless impresive compared to the useless toxic treatments peddled by the drug industry over the last 30 years. Interferon being one of the worst treatments inflicted on many a poor cancer patient along with chemo and radiation for which many cancers have little or no response and are extremely toxic.

I make no false claims about the work of Dr Kelley or Dr Gonzalez for that matter. For those willing to dig a little and research their work they will find a body of good evidence for their protocol.

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Chucksan on Thu Feb 11, 2016 08:47 AM

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"I think you didnt read the title of the thread or realise what section of the forum you are on...........Just to remind you this particular thread is concerned with alternative treatments for cancer."

I read the title of the thread very clearly.  There are no alternative mdecines that work well against cancer, pancreatic or other.  Those usless toxic tretments from the drug copmpanies were all we have had for way too long.  They have indeed helped some and extended their lives although way too short and yes with way too many side effects.  All drugs even aspirin have side effects on the body.  Show me one phony alterntive treatment that has shown progress against any cancer with scientific studies and not fake testimonials.  There are none.  Show me one with 3.5 years survival against stage 4 squamous lung cancer.  You can't because there are none.

I chatted with a patient several weeks ago, while my wife was at her Opdivo infusion day, and while he was waiting for a CT scan, blood draw and then appointment/treatment with our same oncologist.  He is a 6 year survivor of stage 4 lung cancer.  He has gone thru 3 different sets of chemo and is now on Tarceva.  As the drugs eventually stop working his oncologists start him on a new drug. Down the road he might get the oncologist to try Opdivo on him as it is now FDA approved for his type of lung cancer and seems to have long term progress with few side effects for many patients. The "drug industry"  and his real oncologist who went to Harvard Medical School are making honest and promising progress against cancer.  

I will continue to convince people here and elsewhere to forget chasing phony doctors and their phony treatments and go to real medical cancer clinics/hospitals with highly trained real medical oncology doctors.  That is there only long term chance of survival.

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Donga on Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:16 AM

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Nice to see someone going into bat for the other side. Keep it up.Eventu ally common sense will prevail.Stuff Big Pharma

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Cured on Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:01 AM

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What you should say is that there isnt any alternative treatments that you know about that work.

But as i have stated in previous posts many people with biopsy proven late stage cancers who went on the Kelley program survived way longer than any people treated with conventional mainstream medicine. A book was published by Dr Gonzalez with around 50 exceptional cases.

There are also many cases of spontaneous remission of cancers on record. How they were achieved we do not know ?

There have been cases of people with fevers, being struck by lightning whose cancers disappeared.

There are numerous people who have used cancer clinics in Germany and Mexico with long standing results against aggressive cancers using a mixture of conventional and mainstream modalities.

So please do some research before you come on here and preach there is only one way and that is through the drug companies that control the drug trials, the research, the FDA, the medical profession etc

Finally for anyone who has cancer do your research very carefully. If mainstream medicine offers a very good chance of long term recovery and good odds for your cancer without too much toxicity then maybe that is the way you should go.

However if they dont have much to offer then you need to look elsewhere. And finally sometimes doing nothing might be better than taking toxic treatments that destroy the quality of your life and dont offer you much in the way of extra survival time.

 

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Chucksan on Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:47 PM

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!00% nonsense! Mexico and Germany are littered with cancer quacks. You are unethical to come here and try to convince people with serious cancer to go anywhere but the finest cancer centers in the US with highly educated and recognized Oncologist such as:

University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center (Houston)

Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center (New York)

Mayo Clinic (Rochester, Minn.)

Dana-Farber/Brigham and Women's Cancer Center (Boston)

Seattle Cancer Care Alliance/University of Washington Medical Center (Seattle)

Johns Hopkins Hospital (Baltimore) and UCLA Medical Center (Los Angeles)

Massachusetts General Hospital (Boston)

UCSF Medical Center (San Francisco)

Stanford (Calif.) Health Care - Stanford Hospital

The Kelley and Gonzalez rationales for cancer treatment are largely speculative and invalid. A review of all material published by Kelley and Gonzalez shows neither to have had training in oncology or board certification in any medical specialty or to have performed or published experimental work verifying their conclusions about the cause of cancer or about their treatment.

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  • Neither Kelley nor Gonzalez has identified proposed toxins in processed food.
  • Neither has evidence that abnormal protein molecules from necrosing tumors are toxins or that they poison organs.
  • Neither has evidence that the toxins poison oxidative metabolism.
  • Neither has evidence that cancers thrive in an anaerobic environment.
  • Neither has shown that coffee enemas, megavitamin doses, and their special diets inhibit the progress of cancer.
  • Neither has produced evidence that a deficiency of pancreatic digestive enzymes is related to the onset of cancer.
  • Neither has produced evidence that enzymes from animal or vegetable sources can replace enzymes in human organs.
  • There is no evidence that ingested pancreatic enzymes seek out and kill cancer cells.
  • Neither has produced evidence that their regimens are more effective than a placebo for cancer.

PS: My wife on Feb 14th (Valentines Day) will have survived for exactly 3.5 years since the original definitive dignosis of stage 4 squamous lung cancer. She started on two duals of chemo (toxic treatments as you call them) and didn't do well with some bothersome side effects. We didn't give up with our eminent oncologist from Harvard Medical School (magna cum laude and summa cum laude from Princeton under grad

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Chucksan on Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:58 PM

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Sorry, post was cut off.

He put her on a phase three trial drug, recently FDA approved and she is now doing very well.  She only has an infusion every 6 weeks and she might be completely off anti-cancer drugs soon.  She will fly to Japan soon for 5 weeks to visit family.  She has already been there a number of times in the last two years for 2-3 weeks with zero problems. There are many other patients who are also progressing well on the new immunology drugs, verifiable cases, not phoney cases in some quack's book.  No coffee enamas here, thanks!  

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by Cured on Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:15 AM

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Stop quoting rubbish from Quackwatch whch is a lackey to the mainstream medical community.

It has no credibility. It has been sued and lots many times.

You have not addressed the fact that Dr Kelly and Dr Gonzalez had a host of patients who with last stage cancer biopsy proven who far outlived any treatment that mainstream medicines had to offer.

All the other guff in your post in nonsense and addresses nothing.

If mainstream medicine doesnt  have any effective treatments for your cancer then you would be very smart to look elsewhere.

If there are effective non toxic mainstream treatments then i would be encouring people to use them simple as that.

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by dumbcritic on Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:18 AM

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The Gonzalez protocol was tested in a trial http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19687327 From his own website ''Overall, cancer patients will consume 130-175 capsules a day, including nutrients as well as pancreas product.'' http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/treatment.htm Among patients who have pancreatic cancer, those who chose gemcitabine-based chemotherapy survived more than three times as long (14.0 v 4.3 months) and had better quality of life than those who chose proteolytic enzyme treatment.

RE: What Alternative Medicine works best against Pancreatic Cancer?

by dumbcritic on Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:21 AM

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Here is some info on Coley's toxins http://mbvax.com/index.php/mbvax-results/ http://www.pv

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