False Hope 4 Cancer, Tijuana Mexico

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False Hope 4 Cancer, Tijuana Mexico

by FalseHope on Sun Oct 23, 2016 08:52 PM

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For anyone looking for information on this clinic run by Tony Jiminez, run, don't walk from this "alternative clinic".  Almost everyone that goes here succumbs to their disease after spending a fortune.  They recently removed a protocol called PNC 27 as a treatment from their website after touting that this product would work on every type of cancer.  In actuality, many individual's cancer got worse very quickly and most are dying.  They pulled the product from their website and never communicated this to their current patients who were still on this protocol or even alerted to them that they found out that it had the possibility of making certain cancers grow. They just "quietly" removed it. More concerned with their business than with those that had already spent huge sums of money!!  A patient facebook group begun by one of the patients enabled the patients to stay connected and learn from each other.  The clinic is not transparent at all!! I spoke with someone who had been there a year before when he was doing other treatments and she said the same thing...that almost no one got better!!! Note..They had seminars at the clinic with the supplier of PNC27 and the patients... and they were all told that this is an effective treatment and has been used on patients... it just takes time.  Below are some conversations between patients that reflect what happened to them.  Sorry to say, they are all gone now.  

So, I've debated about posting here because I know I'm not a negative person and I don't want to hurt anyone. However, I feel like I must tell my story because my life is upside down. In fact, it's evaporated. I don't have a life at the moment. 
When I went to H4C in December 2015 I had stage 4 lung cancer but not much in the way of tumor load (and that was confirmed with the gold standard test of PET scan 11/2015 that H4C goes by.)I had 2 active small areas, upper left lobe and lower left lobe of my left lung. They were the size of my pinky nails. I had No other lymph node involvement or other organs involved , surely not bones or spine!!! I figured I could give up traditional treatment and finish things off with a great alternative approach the way H4C showed online, in the TTAC videos, on their videos!! Why not? When I called I actually got to speak to Dr. Tony himself! I was with "the Rockstar!" How lucky was I! So, I enrolled in all the therapies he suggested and never questioned much of anything. I figured the fact that he was on such a program as TTAC(The Truth About Cancer, Quest for the Cures) that was considered reputable by my alternative doctor and she said they check things out so I can be sure it's legitamate. So, I had all the confidence in the world. 
I arrived on December 1 and began therapy the next day. They started us off on high doses of IV PNC (I also got the Rigvir later and some of the other therapies at the clinic.) As I've had pleural effusions from the past i seemed to be producing an enormous amount of fluid once again. They said that was typical of anyone producing fluid..that they would produce much more of it. They didn't explain why, just that we would have to make a commitment to drain it and deal with it to be able to receive the PNC.i had to do this twice at H4C. At home I did it numerous times since then. now, I still have a catheter because it's so painful to keep having it done. And, there are many other things that I need to share with you you that are painful that I'm dealing with and need to get done. Again, I am trying to just state facts here so I don't want to come across as mean or negative or trying to destroy anyone's business or hopes. That has actually all happened to me! 
After I returned home I was developing some very bad back pain. As i shared this in my weekly call with the Dr. from the clinic.  I was told to cut down some of the PNC, give my body a break, it's OK to take a few days off, it stays in the body for 6 days. I was on the suppositories like most others then. So I followed his lead. I DID ask him if this was a metastasis or potential metastasis because I was concerned. My pain felt like it was exploding in my lower back. He said it would present by the sternum for lung cancer. I asked several times if I should get a CT scan or an MRI because I had to wait to be approved for an MRI. He said he didn't think it was necessary but I could if I wanted to. I said I would listen to his professional opinion.
Well, before I could do anything else I ended up in the ER with pneumonia. The doctors said my lungs were not only filled with fluid from pleural effusions but had the most and strangest sort of inflammation they hadn't seen in quite awhile. They called it pneumonitis.they said it was unprecedented.i was only oxygenating in the 70's.They said most people are in the 90's. At least 98-99. They said they thought they were going to lose me for 2 days. They gave me every possible treatment they could. In hindsight, and the way my life is now I wish I would have died! My life is a disaster now. Anyhow, I am now oxygen dependent 24/7. I have low level respiratory failure.
Since then I have taken another scan and and did in fact find out that the cause of my back pain was 5 vertebral compression fractures (it did go to my bones and I was misled.) it went deeper into my lungs, it went to about 10-12 lymph nodes, it's in my spleen, it's subcutaneous under my skin , it went to my clavicle and troubling for me is it went to my spine. I've had radiation treatments which I thought would help but we're not sure why I have all the crippling pain I do. It's been months of this. I can barely walk. I use a rollator to go 10 feet because of the pain and imbalance. So, this is my life now. I have two home health aides to help me.People who know me know that I'm a health professional. I haven't worked in 6 months. I can't walk, breathe without O2 or do much of anything. I'm barely social because I'm either in pain or zoned out from all the painkillers I need to take to get through the day. What kind of life is this? The best part is that when I went back to my doctor who supported all my efforts to try alternative, he wanted and said I needed to have traditional chemotherapy again to try to beat back all the cancer. It looks as if I had "miracle gro" put on me. Wow!! It's true!! When I spoke to Dr. Tony about this he said he said he agreed about the chemo. I asked why I needed him /them in the first place and the whole H4C alternative treatment to just go back to traditional treatment and his answer was a cold hard slap in. My face...."Laurie, Laurie, Laurie it is what it is. IT's cancer! Just enjoy the rest of your life!" Wow! That from my rock star!

P.S. For those who don't know...there is no transparency. Myself along with several others have fought with the administration for that and you're the recipients of the new survey. There were No clinical trials or studies. We were those trials. Unfortunately for many who have died they didn't H4C didn't understand so much. This is a treatment that causes necrosis, a much more involved way of killing cells and can be quite dangerous if not monitored closely. So, yes, it is important how things are done, not, I want my cells to die that way I signed up forit. I wanted a safer way for me a little more and hopefully for others safety. But, please...never never not appreciate those who fought to create safety for your health! Be Appreciative! Now I can go and cry. I've shared my heart and pray for everyone. Thank you and God bless!   Note:  Results of their survey were never shared with the patients!! 

  Another comment: I am so very sorry, your story breaks my heart Praying for you... It's so difficult to stay positive when hearing a lot of horrible stories about PNC, and only a few success stories... My husband's cancer metastasized to his lungs after a month of using PNC,and still dealing with severe joint pain as a result of it...Now he is stage 4 and that was my worst nightmare...

Another comment:   I hate to admit but I feel I also went rapidly down hill after leaving the clinic and staying on PNC. I've decided to stop using it as of last night. Feel it might be making things worse not better.  I just wonder if the pnc is actually doing more harm than good at this point for the majority of patients. They said the tumours would enlarge but now they've stayed enlarged. What can I do now. They are all down my GI track. I cannot swallow very well and am essentially starving to death because of it.

     Every week we hear of more patients going back to chemotherapy, surgery and other treatments as their cancers have spread and each week more and more of the patients are dying.

     Just thought that the TRUTH needed to be told!

RE: False Hope 4 Cancer, Tijuana Mexico

by pwalcz1 on Mon Oct 24, 2016 01:43 PM

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There are dozens of clinics in Tijuana, how did you decide on Hope 4 Cancer Tony Jimenez's clinic?  

I recently took my mother stage 3 ovarian cancer to CIPAG Dr Castillo's clinic.  I've done my research and talked to handful of previous patients before making my decision to go with her there.  Dr Castillo's clinic has been in practice for over 30 years and is one of the oldest still running clinics in Tijuana.  Other clinics we considered were Oasis of Hope, Biomedical Clinic (Hoxsey), and Immunity Therapy Center.  Weighing the costs + experience + references, we decided to go with Castillo's clinic.  She started his treatment in May 2016 and so far we are very satisfied with the results.  

RE: False Hope 4 Cancer, Tijuana Mexico

by jesichashope on Thu Nov 03, 2016 09:52 PM

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There is a good reason for all of this. Why no one did not thoroughly look at all the data I do not know.  We sent a patient of PNC27 some information that showed the patents which clearly noted normal cells also has HDM-2 which is said to be in only cancer cells [according to the peddlers of it]. She sent it on to the people selling it - they said it was stupid and laughed; we sent them PATENT info - straight from the patent office and they laughed saying it was not true. So that concerns me, they are laughing at the patent that is filed in the US Patent Office ? What is going on? What are they believing then? 

RE: False Hope 4 Cancer, Tijuana Mexico

by Mimlton on Tue Mar 20, 2018 09:40 PM

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On Oct 23, 2016 8:52 PM FalseHope wrote:

For anyone looking for information on this clinic run by Tony Jiminez, run, don't walk from this "alternative clinic".  Almost everyone that goes here succumbs to their disease after spending a fortune.  They recently removed a protocol called PNC 27 as a treatment from their website after touting that this product would work on every type of cancer.  In actuality, many individual's cancer got worse very quickly and most are dying.  They pulled the product from their website and never communicated this to their current patients who were still on this protocol or even alerted to them that they found out that it had the possibility of making certain cancers grow. They just "quietly" removed it. More concerned with their business than with those that had already spent huge sums of money!!  A patient facebook group begun by one of the patients enabled the patients to stay connected and learn from each other.  The clinic is not transparent at all!! I spoke with someone who had been there a year before when he was doing other treatments and she said the same thing...that almost no one got better!!! Note..They had seminars at the clinic with the supplier of PNC27 and the patients... and they were all told that this is an effective treatment and has been used on patients... it just takes time.  Below are some conversations between patients that reflect what happened to them.  Sorry to say, they are all gone now.  

So, I've debated about posting here because I know I'm not a negative person and I don't want to hurt anyone. However, I feel like I must tell my story because my life is upside down. In fact, it's evaporated. I don't have a life at the moment. 
When I went to H4C in December 2015 I had stage 4 lung cancer but not much in the way of tumor load (and that was confirmed with the gold standard test of PET scan 11/2015 that H4C goes by.)I had 2 active small areas, upper left lobe and lower left lobe of my left lung. They were the size of my pinky nails. I had No other lymph node involvement or other organs involved , surely not bones or spine!!! I figured I could give up traditional treatment and finish things off with a great alternative approach the way H4C showed online, in the TTAC videos, on their videos!! Why not? When I called I actually got to speak to Dr. Tony himself! I was with "the Rockstar!" How lucky was I! So, I enrolled in all the therapies he suggested and never questioned much of anything. I figured the fact that he was on such a program as TTAC(The Truth About Cancer, Quest for the Cures) that was considered reputable by my alternative doctor and she said they check things out so I can be sure it's legitamate. So, I had all the confidence in the world. 
I arrived on December 1 and began therapy the next day. They started us off on high doses of IV PNC (I also got the Rigvir later and some of the other therapies at the clinic.) As I've had pleural effusions from the past i seemed to be producing an enormous amount of fluid once again. They said that was typical of anyone producing fluid..that they would produce much more of it. They didn't explain why, just that we would have to make a commitment to drain it and deal with it to be able to receive the PNC.i had to do this twice at H4C. At home I did it numerous times since then. now, I still have a catheter because it's so painful to keep having it done. And, there are many other things that I need to share with you you that are painful that I'm dealing with and need to get done. Again, I am trying to just state facts here so I don't want to come across as mean or negative or trying to destroy anyone's business or hopes. That has actually all happened to me! 
After I returned home I was developing some very bad back pain. As i shared this in my weekly call with the Dr. from the clinic.  I was told to cut down some of the PNC, give my body a break, it's OK to take a few days off, it stays in the body for 6 days. I was on the suppositories like most others then. So I followed his lead. I DID ask him if this was a metastasis or potential metastasis because I was concerned. My pain felt like it was exploding in my lower back. He said it would present by the sternum for lung cancer. I asked several times if I should get a CT scan or an MRI because I had to wait to be approved for an MRI. He said he didn't think it was necessary but I could if I wanted to. I said I would listen to his professional opinion.
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Since then I have taken another scan and and did in fact find out that the cause of my back pain was 5 vertebral compression fractures (it did go to my bones and I was misled.) it went deeper into my lungs, it went to about 10-12 lymph nodes, it's in my spleen, it's subcutaneous under my skin , it went to my clavicle and troubling for me is it went to my spine. I've had radiation treatments which I thought would help but we're not sure why I have all the crippling pain I do. It's been months of this. I can barely walk. I use a rollator to go 10 feet because of the pain and imbalance. So, this is my life now. I have two home health aides to help me.People "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://me.People " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">me.People who know me know that I'm a health professional. I haven't worked in 6 months. I can't walk, breathe without O2 or do much of anything. I'm barely social because I'm either in pain or zoned out from all the painkillers I need to take to get through the day. What kind of life is this? The best part is that when I went back to my doctor who supported all my efforts to try alternative, he wanted and said I needed to have traditional chemotherapy again to try to beat back all the cancer. It looks as if I had "miracle gro" put on me. Wow!! It's true!! When I spoke to Dr. Tony about this he said he said he agreed about the chemo. I asked why I needed him /them in the first place and the whole H4C alternative treatment to just go back to traditional treatment and his answer was a cold hard slap in. My face...."Laurie, Laurie, Laurie it is what it is. IT's cancer! Just enjoy the rest of your life!" Wow! That from my rock star!

P.S. For those who don't know...there is no transparency. Myself along with several others have fought with the administration for that and you're the recipients of the new survey. There were No clinical trials or studies. We were those trials. Unfortunately for many who have died they didn't H4C didn't understand so much. This is a treatment that causes necrosis, a much more involved way of killing cells and can be quite dangerous if not monitored closely. So, yes, it is important how things are done, not, I want my cells to die that way I signed up forit. I wanted a safer way for me a little more and hopefully for others safety. But, please...never never not appreciate those who fought to create safety for your health! Be Appreciative! Now I can go and cry. I've shared my heart and pray for everyone. Thank you and God bless!   Note:  Results of their survey were never shared with the patients!! 

  Another comment: I am so very sorry, your story breaks my heart Praying for you... It's so difficult to stay positive when hearing a lot of horrible stories about PNC, and only a few success stories... My husband's cancer metastasized to his lungs after a month of using PNC,and still dealing with severe joint pain as a result of it...Now he is stage 4 and that was my worst nightmare...

Another comment:   I hate to admit but I feel I also went rapidly down hill after leaving the clinic and staying on PNC. I've decided to stop using it as of last night. Feel it might be making things worse not better.  I just wonder if the pnc is actually doing more harm than good at this point for the majority of patients. They said the tumours would enlarge but now they've stayed enlarged. What can I do now. They are all down my GI track. I cannot swallow very well and am essentially starving to death because of it.

     Every week we hear of more patients going back to chemotherapy, surgery and other treatments as their cancers have spread and each week more and more of the patients are dying.

     Just thought that the TRUTH needed to be told!

This is the best advise I have found so far: support your body's own immune system and it will heal itself! We are out own worst enemy by causing our bodies to be highly acidic and fill of inflammation: http://www.georgedryden.com/detox/how-to-go-alkaline-and-avo

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